Mobius

Have you considered checking if Frankensteing the sff internals with the gaming pc case was feasible?

As on right now if you make a single drive pool using truenas ui as a workaround it breaks hexos. The devs are very much aware we really want this feature and support will come eventually.

More options will always be welcome by the community. I'm sure if it gets a one click install i would try it too.

oh thats awesome i gotta change that asap. thanks for the help

i keep forgetting to hit follow on topics i make 😅 i would defintely have replied to everyone earlier honestly thats a great idea and way less risky than what i did (grab a $10 ssd from craigslist) but for now im not keeping anything critical. What do you plan to do with the gpu? Im always looking to make the most out of my machine This is a big one for sure. Between the premium that more bays cost and the power costs of more but smaller drives, going as big as financially feasible makes the most sense. Wow how old is that psu? My seasonic from 2017 used standard connectors. You got the full experience from the rough to the better to to even better. An all ssd nas would be so nice but man does it sound expensive especially to get storage parity with hdds. I have around 50tb of storage at the moment in hdds active and getting that with consumer ssds would be around $4000 with 1 drive for parity. maybe once i make it big in life i can afford a few of those 100+tb solidgym ssds Yeah sometimes we really do just get too excited and way overthink and complicate things.

yeah i dont mind testing things.

it would be appreciated even if it wasn't concrete, like if for example we got communication saying next update is coming in 1-3 months.

ah yeah that makes a lot of sense.

before i built my server i did a decent amount of google searches to see if faster ram makes a difference. Pretty much everyone just said to focus on more ram than faster ram.

Looking forward to tariffs lowering prices /s But i think the big difference is the best PC store in the USA, microcenter. Their prices were around 60% other places.

so realtek nic in general are pretty notorious for being unstable. the realtek 2.5gb nic in my asus motherboard is known to cause corruption issues with iscusi so truenas straight up disables the drivers for it. I wasn't able to figure out the workaround to turning the nic back on and just ended up using a usb nic temporarily. I went for the core ultra 265k because there was a pretty good deal for it $220usd if a motherboard was also purchased. Itll probably make significantly less if you are paying the 312 euros i am seeing in germany for a 245k.

I think the most common place its available these days is aliexpress but it couldn't hurt to ask that site's support when itll be back in stock Yeah im with you in that AMD is wayyyy better for gaming or even general computing. Its nice knowing that intel still has its place so that there is at least some competition. Look into used 12th gen cpus that are used. In general cpus tend to have almost zero downside being bought used. This way you can likely get a 12500 or higher for around the same exact price and those do have a better intel uhd 770 gpu compared to the intel uhd 730 gpu found in the 12100. the motherboard you picked has a realtec nic which may give you problems. i would suggest looking for a different motherboard with an intel/killer nic. i think 650w will not be overkill for a system with potentially up to 12 drives since there tends to be spikes when you first spin up 12 drives. skip getting an aio, its way overkill and adds another point of failure. stock cooler is more than adequate for the 12100 and if you go used without a cooler something like the artic freezer 36 is a pretty good value when looking at prices in germany i would just make sure all the lower level fan slots for the hdds are populated (i believe that is 2) and 1 for the top level for the computing components. in the future when you add a hba i might zip tie a small fan to it to keep that cool.

Yeah AMD really makes it difficult to keep track of what each cpu can do. I agree 2 sticks are better than 1 in general but i tend to prioritize fewer larger sticks in servers where upgrading is considered. I'm not all that convinced most home servers will even use all that bandwidth 😅

gosh i seriously hate the short edit timeouts for this site but back to your needs im sure if we cut back on couple things we can likely fit a jonsbo n5 in your budget, which will fit even more drives and honestly from my experience the lasting power of a nas is directly correlated with how much more storage i can jam into it lol. But also you will not be limited to the more expensive and less feature rich M itx motherboard so you will likely have access to 4 ram slots (up from 2) multiple pcie slots (up from 1)

i forgot to mention that the jonsbo n3 only supports mini itx motherboards and you will very much not find one with 2 pcie slots.

Depending on what you are using the server for i would actually recommend intel. If running a plex/jellyfin server is important to you, you cannot underestimate the value having a cpu that supports intel quick sync will add. That said if it is of no important yeah def go amd. i know you said you dont want older gen hardware but you can't really go wrong with intel 12th gen, if that is too old there is the new intel core ultra 200 chips with cheaper non k skus coming out soon. (just make sure to skip intel 13th and 14th gen) absolutely correct, do not ever deal with usb storage If you tell me what country you are based in, i can check local prices and help you pick a parts list I just want to double check if you mean encoding a video like after video editing or transcoding a video so that you can play it on a device that does not support the original format. video encoding def can benefit from a dedicated gpu but transcoding is very solid on an intel cpu without any dedicated gpu solid case you really don't need to worry about old hardware since even something a few generations old will defintely be kicking for at least a decade without issues thats a good start for ram, try to keep in mind the 2 rules of thumb for ram more is always better You want 1gb of ram for every tb of storage just make sure it is a sfx powersupply that has a length under 105mm for your chosen case I say just get the smallest ssd you can find that is at least 32gb since hexos does not use the boot drive for anything else. for me it felt kinda wasteful not buying a 1tb ssd for 50-60 but in all honesty spending more than you have to for storage you can't use is more wasteful I ended up repurposing an old 128gb ssd Like psychowards said you can always add more sata slots via an hba later but if you plan to do that you want at least 2 pcie slots that wont interfere with each other physically (if u still plan to add a gpu down to road, ignore this if i convinced you not to bother with a dgpu 😂) I would not spend a large premium for a board with 8 built in sata ports but i would pay a small premium for it just not to deal with hba since that is also an added expense. You will want a motherboard that does not use a realtek nic (network interface card) this link has information on motherboard specs like number of sata ports or what kind of nic is used on the front page there is a link to a spreadsheet for a similar one but for intel core 200 motherboards if you decide to go that route I personally think the later gen am4 (g variants) would still kinda be overkill. 100% would skip the non g variants for am4 since they do not have integrated gpus. almost all the am5 cpus have igpus (except for the f variants which i would very much skip) One of the reasons why i put so much emphasis on igpu is that it will save you so much money in the long run in electricity costs. An idle gpu does not use a negligible amount of electricity.

That cpu most defintely has an iGPU As for ram speed it really is not a big deal honestly as even ddr3 is within spec. On top of that the user can like he said upgrade if he wants to. the case he picked the jonsbo n3 only supports sfx psus not psus of the atx size like you rec'd

I post here a bit too often and some shortcuts would seriously make my life easier. if i could type in the text box things like below !wiki to get the tutorials link !usb to get this why not to use usb storage !start here for the link to start here page !workarounds for the link to the work arounds page It would make giving support easier. I imagine if possible it would just be easiest if each user could just setup their own shortcuts so the hexos forms team doesnt have to deal with updating it.

Its been a lil while since the beta fully opened up to everyone that has bought a license, i think it would be a great idea for us to look back and point out what we would do differently for our builds. For me the big thing would be to have waited for beta 2 or full release since right now there isn't enough i can/want to do. But that aside i never thought about looking into nic compatibility so i would defintely have picked a motherboard WITHOUT a realtek nic. I would also just fished for the other 2 14tb drives i had somewhere in storage instead of being lazy and making a mixed pool of 3x14tb + 2x16tb drives. I guess another minor thing would have just been not to bother spending the extra $5 on rgb ram if i was just gonna have to jump through hoops to turn off the rgb. (i bought it in hopes of increased resale value if i ever decide to part out this system)

Yes a local hexos ui is planned as part of the 1.0 rollout

Proxmox is built for the sole purpose of running vms efficiently. So it'll likely run smoother using less resources than hexos But i don't use it myself so this this all hearsay I'm also not familiar enough with it to tell you if your cpu is strong enough for certain but my gut feeling is that ubuntu +Windows at the same time might be tough for your cpu since it's a quad core that's over a decade old.

if you are gonna be running multiple vms you may want to look into proxmox. From inside proxmox you can probably host 3 vms meeting your needs (Windows, ubuntu and HexOS)

It holiday / new years time so things are probably pushed back a bit. That said im sure you have nothing to worry about since they will likely allow you to get your refund since you requested it within the 30 days even if they refund you after the 30 days.

My network is probably gonna be so congested that week i try to move the files. I might wait for the family to go vacation

this is actually great to know, here i was planning on just copy pasting and praying for the best