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the jonsbo n4 case has ventilation holes all along the top of the case the 70mm coolers wouldn't really be chocked and would likely be bringing in fresh air from outside of the case

they work better for transcoding video in jellyfin or plex. if that doesnt matter to you feel free to use amd. they are garbage hardware with even worse linux drivers. Ive seen so many problems from them from system crashing to straight up not working. the most common 2.5 and 5gb nics are realtek because they are cheap but straight up disabled by truenas/hexos because they cause data corruption. networking more important. you can survive using amd for transcoding. gen 12 doesnt have that issue only 13 and 14 does. you don't need more than 32, heck you don't need more than 8 but the more you have the better itll perform. you can find it for a fraction of the price on ebay, there are fakes so i tend to avoid things being shipped directly from china. that said i've heard the fakes work fine. i would also avoid the 9300 and go with either 9200 or 9305 because 9300 has overheating problems. so for this i would just check the description and see if it has already been flashed to "i.t. mode" or i would ask the seller if it has been. these cards have 2 different modes and "i.t. mode" is what is compatible for us. while they can be manually flashed at home, its just not worth the effort since a large amount of them come pre-flashed. this looks not bad to me. since it comes with 2 sata break out cables each worth around ~10-12 usd

use the link i made for the build click edit this list remove the motherboard i picked then look for a new motherboard set sata 6gb slider to minimum 6. this will give you the models with 6 sata ports but majority of them do not have pricing so you will have to look for pricing yourself. also avoid any with realtek network interface cards. cache drives are barely a thing in hexos/truenas you are far better off allocating that budget for additional ram. if you do go with expansion cards like the lsi hbas they do support both sata and nvme on one expansion card depending on the model but im not too familiar with how to connect nvme drives to them. depending on the model the expansion cards are not expensive and might be a lot less expensive than different motherboard. if you start with a pool of at least 3 drives it is as simple as clicking add new drive and waiting. at this time until you change out all the drives in a pool all drives will be treated as the same size as the lowest capacity drive. once you finish changing them out, it should automatically increase in capacity. in the distant future we will have a feature called zfs anyraid which will let you mismatch drive sizes and still have use of the full capacity. That said its likely years away and may not be compatible with existing pools.

your best bet would be to jump up to a case that supports atx motherboards since matx motherboard with enough sata ports are rare. the jonsbo n4 can support 6 3.5" drives and 2 2.5" drives, which would require a total of 8 sata data ports to take full advantage of the case. There are motherboards that have 6 sata + 2 m.2 but they would likely be outside of your budget. any reason why you don't want to use a sata expansion card? for a homelab i would go with which ever of the 2 are cheaper. we have something similar but its not fully automated. hexos will warn you that a drive is problematic. you would then need to replace the drive and then tell hexos that the newly added drive is for the purpose of taking the place of the bad drive. then hexos will take care of the rest.

so your motherboard and poswer supply does not fit in your case. the jonsbo n4 supports up to matx cases and sfx power supplies. also we highly recommend not getting a motherboard with a realtek nic (network interface card) because those just cause problems. here is the skeleton of your build on pc part picker for reference. https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/pHnZTM I see that it costs ~630 euros let me see what i would do with a similar budget. https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/pzG73w i went with an intel cpu because they tend to do better if your usecase is say plex. with a fairly strong igpu for most non ai or gaming tasks. i went with a thermalright cooler since they are usually pretty good. this one has better cooling headroom than the be quiet one you had before. im not thrilled about the rgb personally so if you are able to find it without it i would get that. The motherboard i picked has an intel nic and ddr5 support. be careful if you decide to purchase the motherboard without using the pcpartpicker provided links as msi has like 5 different motherboards with the same name. Oh also this motherboard should fit in the jonsbo n4 no problem. 1 thing is that this motherboard only has 4 sata ports. the best way to add more is by adding an hba card (flashed to it mode) into the pcie slot. i would recommend any of the following, lsi 9200-8i, 9305-8i, 9400-8i Since the motherboard supports ddr5 ram, i picked the same capacity ddr5 ram for you. same case I didn't pick the cheapest power supply that fit. I personally like the seasonic brand of power supplies and this one was fully modular making it just a bit easier to cable manage in that case. this skeleton also came out to about ~630 euros. (not including storage) the motherboard only has 1 full sized m.2 and i opted to use it for the boot drive. and swapped out your ssds to sata ones instead for compatibility purposes. i know its not ideal but itll likely be imperceptible on the day to day. i didnt look into hdd pricing because its hard for me to check the pricing in your country outside of pcpartpicker but definitely check out the pricing of seagate exos drives since for some reason they end up being sold at a lower price than the ironwolf drives fairly often. i'm not sure what you mean by this but if you can clarify it for me i'm happy to answer this and any more questions you may have as well as help you further modify this list if you desire.

I used to be able to give a confident yes before but im actually not sure. I think truenas scale 25 added some new flags to zfs pools preventing being used on machines running at the latest truenas 24 (which hexos is still based on). hexos will be getting an update sometime in q3 that should bring it up to truenas 25. once that happens it will go back to a confident yes. ofc i can be completely wrong about 25 update to zfs feature flags breaking compatibility with older os versions or misunderstanding it. I think it was a manual update too so if you didn't update it simplifies things. i don't have enough experience on the matter to confirm any of your other questions. hopefully someone else can chime in with more info. at this time a lot of hexos features have not been fully implemented. if you switch over now you will be seeing more of the same and having to deal with a lot of truenas stuff for apps because hexos only supports 2 apps for one click installs right now. Once the q3 update drops im expecting hexos to really ramp up with more 1 click install apps.

im not sure if this will work for you guys but i have a core ultra 265k and the igpu didn't work till i upgraded to truenas 25 fangtooth (breaking proper compatibility with hexos) after that it just worked.

I think it'll be fine but i haven't tested out a similar setup myself.

Ah i tried to look for parts using the same region as you using pc part picker, guess it didn't work. Honestly the different variation of the cooler are all pretty similar so i wouldn't worry about v1 vs v2 or digital or whatever variants they have. It might just drop to lower speeds faster since it'll cool the cpu faster. You can always edit the fan curve to one that makes more sense for you You are always better off using less fans that don't have to work hard. In the long run you'll save plenty of money just on electricity from having less fans on top of not having to buy as many fans. Mesh in general will heavily increase airflow and keep it so your system is at s lower temp in general. It might sound contradictory because i just recommended increasing fans for your cpu cooler but that is more fans that don't have to work as hard. Yeah that's a good idea. Just avoid Arctic's heat sink. If you of have a heat sink on the back of your motherboard use a thermal pad to connect the ssd to the case instead (generic advice because too sleepy to check your motherboard again)

of your listed motherboards i would recommend MSI PRO H610M-G DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard the other listed options have a relatek nic and those in general don't play nice with nas operating systems i suggest checking out the hardwarebusters website to find an efficient power supply for your build. nothing wrong with going a bit overboard with your cpu, i initially planned to get a core ultra 245k for my current build but for some reason the 265k was cheaper so i got that. Now i can't help but think a 285k would be even better lol. 265k works great, it is a slightly stronger cpu than the one you picked but i had no issues with 1 jellyfin stream, immich and a very bloated qbitorrent running in the background.

not the 7e10 series there are a lot of segate exos 12tb drives. exos x24, x18, x16, x14, x12 serieses all have 12tb drives.

defintely also check out the prices for seagate exos drives, they are surprisingly affordable. its very possible your cpu despite its age is more than adequate for transcoding. i would test it on its own first prior to committing to a gpu. a gpu would add idle power draw and the costs do add up over time.

intel has said so many times and were wrong so many times about 13th and 14th gen being fixed so regardless i wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pole. mobo is good bc it uses an intel nic which is preferred if your case fits it i would go with the slightly cheaper but wayyy better Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE V2 definitely consider a different case that has plenty of mesh for airflow purposes. arctic p14 pro has recently been released so i would consider that over the p14 max but yeah overall solid choices

as someone with only 192gb ram, i think daily about how much better my life would have been if i had 256gb ram instead half kidding, maybe 3/4ths kidding

A reorganization of the forums is in the works and the team is aware that having a few sections hidden can be a bit confusing.

highly highly recommend you post your parts list PRIOR to purchasing things. There are so many gotchas in server building that was never relevant in pc building. honestly even i wish i had someone check my parts list prior. Now after making all the mistakes i'm able to point everyone else in the right direction 😅

so you can put certain apps behind vpn but you would have to do that via docker compose using gluetun. a couple weeks ago i did set it up but i had no idea what i was doing and stumbled my way into getting it working by accident

didn't realize the 40tb drives were already available. just make sure they are not smr drives. you want cmr drives.

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its not just slow during rebuild but slow during all operations. ahh candian dollars. you should be able to find similarly priced exos drives as well at smaller sizes.

its not a hexos issue but rather cmr drives don't play nice with raid in general. if you use raid with your drives you are not gonna have a good time regardless of os. you can still use them but they will be slow as sin if you can return then you can get a significantly better value at the same price or less https://www.ebay.com/itm/236143802502 this is in the same price range, sold by seagate themselves, almost double the size, cmr drive and a more vibration resistant enterprise drive. you can probably find even better values since this was less when i bought it a month or 2 ago.

Honestly easiest thing would probably be getting a cheap m.2 to sata adapter so you can plug in all the drives at once and transfer data

I am just a forum mod i am not a dev that is part of the eshtek team hence why i don't know what progress has been made Sucks that my earnest response to you has been received poorly.

i was able to mount 6 - 2.5" drives where jonsbo only recommended 4 In the product images for the n5 case they show 2.5" drives being mounted with the long side horizontally i ended up mounting them with the long side vertically and having the connectors on the bottom of the case. it was definitely a tight fight for sure and while i was able to get it to work with standard non angled cables, i will highly recommend left angle sata cables like the ones included in the image below. The other issue i had was that i ran out of screws for the ssd mounting. i think jonsbo gave enough for 5 ssds (the 4 they intended you to mount and 1 more incase you lose screws) At first the only screws i could find freely slid left and right on the mounting rails without me even noticing. I can imagine if i didn't notice the klinking and clanging it would inevitably cause would drive me nuts. Eventually i found 2 screws that worked perfectly in my stash of screws from the various pc cases i have bought. My 7th 2.5" ssd got the short end of the stick and was vhb taped to an empty area. the power supply situation gave me so many headaches. I couldn't decide between an 850w or a 1000w psu. pcpart picker estimated my wattage above 850w but my math didn't match theirs i couldn't find a lot of what was available on the best psu list the ones i could find didnt have enough sata power ports I also did not want to use molex to sata adapters or vice versa for risk of fire or damaging components chatpt essentially told me it was a bad idea eventually i was enticed by a psu not on the list but i guess a step up from one that did decently on the list The Super Flower LEADEX VII Platinum PRO 850 W which had a TWELVE sata power ports. i was torn between the 850w and the 1000w versions of that psu and the prices were only $10 apart when i first looked. they both even came with super flower's high performance megacool fans (that are as loud as jet engines) when it was finally time to bite the bullet the 850w psu price dropped by another $20-30 and the bonus fans that came with the 1000w changed to something that was less desirable to me. The reduced price, more desirable fans and my own math showing 850w was enough to convince me to get the the 850w psu. A cool feature that i previously thought was a gimmick is that on the psu end almost every connection uses a universal plug. This lets your buy more sata power cables in case you want use the psu in a case that can fit even more hdds. A psu with enough sata power connections was only one of my problems, another was that my sata cables were too short. even with creative routing of cables i just was not able to connect 2 of my sata power cables. i reluctantly had to purchase sata cable extensions. in hindsight i could have just bought 1 or 2 more of the universal sata cables and route them where i need them but i was near the end of my build and really didn't want to pull out the psu again. Also finding the right cables would be a risk too if done wrong. Im sure i have more to comment on but these days no time to sleep or think with the overtime shifts this darn server forced me to take 😅 next part to come eventually