Todd Miller

While not a buddy backup I hope the second license can be used to build a "regular" backup NAS system. I've already got two backups on external HDD media but they are so SLOW.

Did this go anywhere? Now that infor is coming fast and furious I like to use a RSS reader to keep up.

I wonder if Eshtek is ready to have an app store separate of TrueNAS. This would require them to have a much larger responsibility in situation where an apps author make a move like the Immich issue. This doesn't seem to be likely because what does Eshtek get for this immense extra effort? Just more work and responsibility it seems.

Hmm. It sure seems it took a long time to come to this. And along the way many have already rejected this uninstall/reinstall approach assuming you would eventually have to fix this. Since this is a situation that we are most likely to encounter again do you have a plan to get the Eshtek response out before the forums are reduced to a dozen large arguments? You may not know what issues are coming but you do know months of silence has proven o be a bad situation.

I would guess it's so Windows can map a network drive. Well maybe not just windows but if it wasn't that way I would not be able to load my photos, movies or general videos. If that's not the reason, don't tell me. I don't want to know.

Can guides like this be converted to custom install scripts or it that just to much work?

Have you decided uninstall/reinstall is not an option?

I was watching this video and the speaker talked about ZFS options in TrueNAS. I don't really know enough about this so I will just ask my question this way. Will HexOS have any control over scrubs or snapshots or is this something we will have to go to TrueNAS for?

So the difference between this and say the core Nextcloud or Opencloud is Paperless ngx isn't just storing documents. It's also scanning them and allowing filtering based on filters? Or do I have to scan a document first so each file is a single page?

Is the RSS feed supposed to have this blog post? I only see five entries and the last on is May. Also, only the Q! status update is listed. I'm wondering if I have the right one.

I think if we are honest almost everyone would say they were disappointed in how this startup has gone including Eshtek. I don't think all of our disappointment is justified because it has nothing to actually do with HexOS. However, you have hit on two points that are hard to argue with. Why are we paying up to $200 to test this application? And TrueNAS what? As for the paying to test question, I guess I am starting to do the same (well kind of) as you because I have set it aside to wait for go live. Plex and Immich are the only current curated apps I would ever use and until the serious discussions on how to secure the NAS start my machine is just a giant backup drive. And as for the current absolute requirement to use TrueNAS to do ALMOST anything including troubleshooting curated app failures. Well, if I am going to have to hire TrueNAS support to properly setup all non curated and some curated apps, I'm probably better off buying beer for my current Unraid support buddy. Like many others, I saw the LTT video and thought "Holly crap, someone finally built a system I can manage myself. I got in at the Black Friday price so HexOS on a mostly recycles server is still cheaper that a Synology or Ugreen prebuilt server. Storage seems to be the biggest cost but I have to pay that either way. I'm sure I will keep checking in and looking at the officially curated apps to see if anything looks interesting but unless there is a solid security option, it's all pretty irrelevant to me. My problem is that if I had to pay $299 what would I need to pull the trigger? That may be a tough uphill struggle for Eshtek if they want to attract people who are not at least serviceable in TrueNAS. So instead of looking at an the app we have today and deciding what it must be going to look like in 1, 2 and 5 years, we can wait and see what 1.0 looks like. I doubt though it will ever just be point and click.

So regardless of which FileBrowser you go with you can't just install it and expect to see all the datasets on the HexOS server? I'm not to shook up about this, I am just used to global file browsers of the linux distro I have. Well, and windows explorer as well I guess. I guess as the admin I am just used to seeing everything because I have access to everything. I'm probably just missing something yet.

When you create a new datasight do you see these options?

??? What future do you crazy dreamers live in? 🤪

That's weird. Maybe disabled is the key because I have one app stopped and I don't get an upgrade option for it until I start it. TrueNAS seems to know the difference so I wonder why it even gave you an option.

Sept 29th or 30th the person who really administers my Unraid setup stopped over and we looked at HexOS. He said in his professional opinion, he could see what HexOS was trying to do but was surprised how much I needed to do in TrueNAS. To be clear, he says he has a functional knowledge in TrueNAS but is not an expert. I mentioned my security issues because I didn't think any apps but the ones I forced to use a certificate of any kind. We he asked for an example I chose Nextcloud. He timed how log in to to start the stopped app, how long it took to launch the app, and a couple of the addons. He mentioned the launch was slow especially since I logged in as me, not administrator. He questioned my Microsoft Office and the Talk app as they could slow things down. After removing those addons we did it again from server bootup and it wasn't any faster. He looked at cpu and memory numbers and said it was way more this server should need or use. I showed him that I had increased the CPU count and available memory Thinking that would help but not really. His general assessment was it was very slow for only two users and no internet intensive addons because copying/moving files was lightning fast. After a few more app demos he said I was right in worrying about security and when HexOS was live I need to secure every app to HTTPS at a minimum if I intended to continue running this NAS. But he also said the apps that were slowest were the ones I installed myself from TrueNAS so if HexOS gets a curated version it may noticeably improve performance. As an example he gave me what the company he was currently working with (that I retired from) launch and addon startup numbers were. They wouldn't accept an app that didn't start in half the time and while that is a full production tuned app, it has +200,000 users in the USA and another +50,000 worldwide.

What mine did was the post_gres in an Immich dataset under applications and the rest under the Photo dataset. Before everything was under the Applications dataset. So if you have this structure you have the most current version and it was expected to clear up the current issues. Please let us know if your dataset structure looks different. First picture is my datasets. The second is my windows SMB share.

When you reinstall remember to remove the old dataset structure. I forgot to do that and it made things more confusing for me as I did the new install.

Now that we have or will have access to the install scripts soon I wonder if we are going to be able to copy the Docker script and use that for a simpler install method. I don't know anything about Docker or Proxmox or the like except what I see on Youtube but it looked pretty straight forward. I don't think there is a way to affect what app is being worked on next unless you do it yourself.

Ditto. I had to change my external library processing but that took 5 minutes once i recognized it.

I still have Nextcloud turned off and probably will until the go live date when the devs can start talking about how to secure things. I know turning on the TrueNAS certificate flag is said to improve security by going through a HTTPS connection but am still waiting for best practice direction. Now as for one person's opinion to answer your question, I have seen a professionally installed and maintained Nextcould setup. I was impressed with the addon integration but not so impressed when I saw the performance. The person I talked to said they were testing Opencloud though they had just started. I guess Opencloud is a fork of something else but I thought I better get one thing running before I start looking at something to compare to. I personally haven't gotten any farther than that but I bet others have the experience to share deeper opinions.

If you get tired of waiting I can attest that uninstalling, removing all datasets and reinstalling worked for me also. If you have 1.2 tb of data I don't recommend this approach but I got tired of waiting for a solution and though it was worth the hours of reloading from my backup. Yea it could turn out to be an unnecessary waste of time but I am up and running now so I accept the time spent.

Hold up here. Is an administrator or moderator going to actually make a statement or can I jump into any discussion and say a post has run it course? That seems bold for a two person conversation that I doubt most people have seen. . I'm still chuckling at the we are listening comment though the more I read the forums the less funny it is.

Ouch. The irony in that statement is not lost.

I wonder if the only real measurable boost they can get is when Linus and company do their live on air install. There aren't enough of us with a platform that if we say it's good or need more work, to move the needle. Most true technologists on Youtube seem to be reviewing this product as if they owe someone a favor. When they do the HexOS vs TrueNAS vs Unraid (or others) they all say HexOS is good for the new to a NAS folks or those just starting out. Does that mean they wouldn't use it and don't expect us to after a few months working with TrueNAS directly? And the single product reviews mostly say let's wait and see. I know already that I am their target audience because I will use the core NAS and apps they make available. And if things go as we have been told the template process is supposed to make new app easier for someone to create. Not sure if that's the team or the app developers but it probably won't be me. As I have said in other places on the forum I have a network expert who created an Unraid setup that does everything I "NEED' and probably much more. HexOS is my inexpensive toy in the corner that I can pick up and mess with for a little while then set aside again when I hit a roadblock like my Raspberry and Orange Pi unites or my mini pc. For now it has my attention but we will see when we finally go live.