Todd Miller

I think the dev team and forum moderators understand what you are saying. The difficulty is when in a deep dev cycle, what can they report that will keep their audience happy? All they can say is "Yep we are working and making progress". We all want more but there may not be more details to be had without giving out priority secrets. And if they do say things are good and they are close we would start a clock and call the project late because we want it now. We're all in a tough spot.

The only thing that makes it harder now is I am now doing it myself. Well and though it's not harder, I used to use two 2GB and two 4GB drives. Finding reasonably priced but dependable storage in large quantities can be a challenge with all the heavily used drives being dumped on the secondary market..

Is that what the templates mentioned many times throughout the forums would be? That is what I had been thinking all along so I may have missed the boat.

I have a working Unraid setup a network analyst friend built for me. I couldn't really do anything with it myself but I could invite him and his wife over periodically and "upgrade" it. When I saw Linus's video and then the initial circle of tech reviewers I decided it was time to try myself. I have no complaints but my needs are pretty straight forward and I got the Black Friday package.

I think the wording of your questions is a bit hamstringing. For instance, I have been using Tailscale to access my Immich app outside the internal network. As well I can access all the NAS data. But, the only apps officially supported are HexOS core, Immich and Plex. If you were to browse the full forums you would see the current owners of HexOS are having success with all types of apps but to be completely transparent there are still some issues. If your a gambler, you buy in and try the things you need. If you are looking for an out of the box production NAS, I don't think we are quite there yet. My start was miserable but I came to this product with big hopes but small knowledge and I am already getting everything I wanted. Just keep in mind that if the HexOS team isn't showing t as a supported app doesn't it will or will not be supported in a year.

All I ask is we don't assume that if we use a product that starts to cost, we will all be able to do that.

I am betting that there are folks besides the devs and admins with both practical knowledge within TrueNAS and an understanding of security best practices. I think they are being quiet now because they don't want to get dragged into forum arguments and focus on their own setup. Those folks following that approach will be much more valuable to the beta than I am right now because when something they are trying doesn't work, it is more likely to be a real issue. When I get something to work besides the one-click apps I was using the 'on a wing and a prayer' approach. I got Tailscale and Nextcloud both working but I can't tell anybody how exactly.

I think Jellyfin has been already acknowledged as in the next group. However, I can't seem to find the forum post that actually says that. All I can find is the references to the original forum. post. Do we have something more concrete as to what is next and if reworking Imich will be include?

Would you want just Nextcloud or some of the additional apps within? And I think we are skating on thinner ice. I installed Nextcloud through TrueNas and it works but I turned it off because it seems to be unsecure. It looks like for the sets of apps we are asking for now we need some best practice security included. And I don't think that should be the HexOS teams responsibility. The youtube video that gave me my breakthrough talked a lot about the HTTP versus HTTPS weakness and how tailscale was not a solution by itself. The HexOS team can add some of the popular security apps to help us but if I get hacked it is very unlikely it's anyone's fault but mine. Don't stop the suggestions because most of us are probably seeing app options we never knew existed and want to incorporate ourselves. Just remember to make security a priority as well.

I am definitely not a TrueNAS expert. I'm not sure I can even say I am entry level. So for me, HexOS had to be pretty plug and play. Though there is a lot of talk about future state and upcoming opportunities, today your $199 will get you a pretty solid and simple frontend to the TrueNAS product and a promise of what is expected to come. If you are pretty functional or better in TrueNas I wonder if you won't get bored with how simple the 1 click apps make adding products to your UI. Yes as you can see above there is an expectation of more apps coming for the i click process because there has been forun pages dedicated to what apps the community wants next. I wonder if this will mean that much to you . The apps coming next seem to be geared towards giving folks a functional NAS with any number of apps that showcase what might be popular and good foundation showing off what's possible. I'm thinking it would be the third or fourth wave of apps added that you might find more interesting. I';m not trying to talk you into or out of spending the money today outside of the fact the team has said the price is expected to go up after the official full release. They have been very up front about that and the expectation of a monthly option. So you may need to see what works for you. Overall PERSONAL OPINION: If your an IT professional (and therefore the default helpdesk for almost everyone you know) this seems to be a product you can recommend to folks where computers and networking isn't their jam. But, if you have a very specific use case you may want to see this product mature for a little while yet. The forums are full of examples is issues that may or may not have anything to do with HexOS. And sooner or later the devs will have to wade through all the noise to address all questions/issues even if the answer is "That's not a HexOS issue". Only time will tell if it is the right fit for you and if the price is right. To each their own.

Were dates given for either of those things? If not it proves FangerZero's point and seem to justify their frustration. Is either Jellyfin or Templates in testing? If not then neither would seem to be ready by HexOS 1.0. And while I am on that subject, I haven't seen or heard any discussion on when that go live date would be. It would seem that if that were within a couple months we would have heard something and be finalizing our hardware purchases to be ready. For me HexOS is already prod. I wanted a simple NAS and when I heard LTT talking about his investment and requirements I thought I finally had what I was looking for. Yeah Plex is neat and Immich is cool and I'm near 60 so I really talk like that. The only way this ends badly is the company goes under before the local UI is created. If you don't see the frustration of your community regardless if it's a bug in HexOS, TrueNAS or the app being run, well then you have a much larger issue on your hands than whether the switches should be to the right or left of the descriptor text. Yes it's a beta test. Yes we knew that going in. But also "yes, this is coming or that is coming and we are also working on a new file system" is just more vagueness in an already vague picture as far as we know.

Did they ever say they would have more than two apps or just that there would be a template if someone wanted to add more apps?

Sorry I blew past this but I mean I couldn't setup the initial datasets as per this video. If the issue is the permissions he talks about later, I didn't try to sync to that because of the dataset error above. Maybe I need to do this out of order?

How were you able to setup the datasets he uses? I get an error when trying to create the Nextcloud dataset. I've no idea how to grant permission to the user or which user it is referring to. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/middlewared/main.py", line 211, in call_method result = await self.middleware.call_with_audit(message['method'], serviceobj, methodobj, params, self) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/middlewared/main.py", line 1529, in call_with_audit result = await self._call(method, serviceobj, methodobj, params, app=app, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/middlewared/main.py", line 1460, in _call return await methodobj(*prepared_call.args) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/middlewared/service/crud_service.py", line 230, in create return await self.middleware._call( ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/middlewared/main.py", line 1460, in _call return await methodobj(*prepared_call.args) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/middlewared/service/crud_service.py", line 261, in nf rv = await func(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/middlewared/schema/processor.py", line 49, in nf res = await f(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/middlewared/schema/processor.py", line 179, in nf return await func(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/middlewared/plugins/pool_/dataset.py", line 714, in do_create verrors.check() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/middlewared/service_exception.py", line 72, in check raise self middlewared.service_exception.ValidationErrors: [EINVAL] pool_dataset_create.share_type: Filesystem permissions on path /mnt/HDDs/Applications prevent access for user "apps" to the path /mnt/HDDs/Applications/Nextcloud. This may be fixed by granting the aforementioned user execute permissions on the path: /mnt/HDDs/Applications.

I had trouble at first when I set the external IP to the IP of Tailscale. What I forgot was my phones wifi connection wouldn't use my external IP so the app kept reporting a false fail as I was setting it up. I ended up having to turn off wifi and use my phone connection/data. Then because my phone connection uses my external IP without issue, it worked. The IP switcher on Imich is pretty touchy.

I believe speedking456 gets credit for this one.

I'm not saying it is right for your situation but I have been using Tailscale for remote access to Immich and the NAS storage itself. I picked it because someone did a pretty good install guide and posted it. Again, I;m not saying it the best for you. I can say though that for someone who doesn't know squat about TrueNAS or Linux or Docker containers and the like, I can saw it worked first try. I am curious if anyone wants to volunteer some alternatives. I believe Cloudflare is sprinkled throughout the forum as well as the general concept of reverse proxy and port forwarding.

Do you also have a recommendation of reverse proxies? I know there are several but recommendations of peoples top three help a lot.

I only disagree with that statement because the web UI is all that loses connection. All other connections stay active. Has the team given you different specific direction? And to be more specific, I can access the HexOS URL. I just get an unavailable error through that URL.

Hmm. It sounds Mascot like you have the measure of this issue. I wonder if this will be solved or at least lessened with the local UI?

Right now I am getting the same thing but it is weird and may not be the same as others. I only reboot or shutdown the server when I have to. And that is once or twice a week (mostly just once) because of the server unavailable error. The thing I think is weird is only the wb UI is having a connection issue. My HD Homerun capture card stays connected and all my TV's still can either watch live TV but also movies and pre-recorded shows from the HexOS server. My windows drive assignments also maintain their connection to the server. I haven't tried the TrueNAS connection because honestly, I don't think of it fast enough. Is it possible something is happening at the developers end that only the web UI seems affected for me? It is an extremely annoying issue since it requires me to reboot the HexOS server. When I do I can connect again without noticeable issue.

Install guide are critical for the beta test to pick up more of the steam it had at the beginning. The "I can't get this o work" forum posts seem to outnumber the "Wow, this is great' posts. There are also few posts that show what people use and are bringing over from TrueNAS. And even less on how they did it. And for people like me I'm not even thinking about trying other apps on my own until I see more folks nailing down the initial install. Right or wrong, I saw a guide for tailscale and was able to use it to get remote access to Immich and the storage within HexOS itself. I'm slow to look at apps that cost though I have a Plex pass because getting the value of that app is within my skill.. It seems that if you put an install guide that the new to NAS folks can follow, you are helping to set the apps that will become the defaults in the near term. First dropbox type self storage apps with a working install will be way ahead of the other apps people like even if the HexOS devs chose a different app to list. As it is often said, one in the hand is worth two in the bush.

By community do you mean the original developer if they want their app ro run on HexOS and the developer takes responsibility to maintain compatibility? Or community as in folks like me ho will try to follow guides to get a working install, filling the template out as I go? Or something else I can't really imagine yet since we are early in this process? It seems the official templates need to be curated by HexOS to maintain the widest compatibility possible. But folks with more complicated hardware or the interest to load 20+ TrueNAS compatible apps will want a more custom template or don't want to wait for templates created on a established release schedule. Never a dull moment I guess.

I wonder if this is what's going on?