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Mostly right. So the UI/UX will update at a much faster pace during beta as we catch up to the underlying capabilities of TrueNAS SCALE. So a single TNS release such as 24.10 can actually carry us quite a ways before we need an underlying OS update. We're already starting to align though. We specifically choose 24.10 so we could focus on Docker and RAIDz expansion as early features. We're already eyeballing specific features in Fangtooth (25.04) for proper inclusion in HexOS. Furthermore, we really don't want users updating HexOS through the TrueNAS SCALE UI. We are going to be more reserved about pushing updates for new releases and wait primarily for TrueNAS .1 releases after their main releases for future updates. That is the one of the reasons HexOS is still in beta right now. 24.10 is stable, but 24.10.1 is the bugfix/hotfix release that comes after and that cadence is followed for all TrueNAS development cycles. We believe this is a better path for customers. Security updates will follow with proper cadence because again, the build's are being produced by iXsystems. This is all a function of our "Powered by TrueNAS" partnership. THAT said, we will have "beta" tracks potentially after 1.0 for HexOS where users will be on a .0 release (possibly even beta or RC), so you can test a new feature. Hefty warnings will be provided for anyone treading this path, so unless you have test gear, we won't encourage this. But for those that want to see the future a little early and help us test it out, you'll be on the inside track ;-).

glad to hear it'll be moved cause i think today alone i answered 3 at least different threads about it

Nice work @BeeezusChrist ! I had been wondering where TF the search function was... I have pinned this thread for visibility

We went with IPS because we had familiarity with the platform and knew there were a number of features we wanted to deploy. Xenforo, discourse, and a bunch of other options are great too, but I don't believe I've found a forum "king" just yet. It really comes down to what you want to use it to do and right now, we are using a lot of features. That said, I couldn't agree more about the search option being too hidden. We will be updating that in the future.

lol! I love that you guys love the forums and I will definitely look into this, but priority right now is 100% focused on getting the beta roll out complete. Then we can breathe and make all sorts of fun forum improvements!! PRIORITIES PEOPLE!! 😉

I found it! For those wondering it is under the activity tab at the top! Some feedback to the forum devs, it would be more user friendly to have a search bar in the top right like a lot of the common forums. Appreciate this might not be a priority atm!

i currently have a truenas scale server, which does what i need it to do, but is a huge pain to work with as an amateur. i bought the beta because i love the idea of having a simpler gui on top of the rock solid truenas base. i don't have the time or the hardware to spin up a second server running hexos to participate in the beta right now, but i'd love to be able to switch over to hexos eventually. therefore, having some method to "upgrade" from truenas scale to hexos eventually would be much appreciated. a nice way to do it in truenas's gui would be best of course, but i'd settle for a good written guide. as long as i'm able to bring over my existing datasets, i'll be happy. i don't think this is a priority feature to develop during the beta, but i'd like to see it eventually.

I believe integrating Home Assistant with HexOS could be a game-changer for the operating system, offering functionality that is sorely lacking in almost all other OS platforms today. A Home Assistant integration would allow users to monitor and manage their NAS more effectively. Imagine being able to track critical metrics such as system uptime, array health, disk health checks, and the overall status of your storage systems — all from within Home Assistant. Furthermore, adding control features would significantly enhance the user experience. It would be fantastic if users could automate tasks like rebooting or stopping/starting applications, VMs, or containers directly through Home Assistant. Additionally, automating disk spin-downs during off-peak hours for power savings would be a powerful and eco-friendly feature. The potential of Home Assistant integration is vast, and it's difficult to fully capture all the possibilities in a single topic. However, the core idea is simple: having such an integration, with continuous updates and new features, would be a major advantage for HexOS. While most other operating systems either lack similar functionality or offer only basic, limited capabilities, HexOS could stand out by providing a more comprehensive, user-friendly, and flexible solution.

Integrated default reverse proxy for docker apps so all apps available on 443 inside home network. integrated DNS to support app name.internaldomain.com with reverse proxy (this puts all apps on 443) Lets encrypt SSL by default for all apps all user has to do is buy domain name and enter it above and all just works support for split horizon DNS consider running the DNS service for folks to allow tight integration (this shouldn't preclude use of other dns services) this is not me advocating for how to expose anything externally, that's not an argument i want to get into 😉

I know that iSCSi is typically more of an enterprise function, however, being that I am a sys admin (and all the hats really) by trade I already have it deployed at home. instead of my son's desktops wasting power for mass storage they both have a 1tb iSCSi drive with all of their game data and saves. I just bought the license as I have come into some hardware and looking to build a new NAS. This is not a must-have today, but hopefully, there will be support within the year. I would be happy to test and work with dev as I have access to a machine with beefy hardware that I do not have allocated yet.

I would like a shutdown and power-on timer for my system. Specifically, I am looking to set up automated timing for both shutting down the system at a specific time and powering it back on at a scheduled time. Could you please let me know if this is feasible and, if so, assist with the necessary configurations? Thanks for all the support so far!

Asus PRIME B450M-A mobo (6 sata ports) 32GB of DDR4 2666MHZ Ryzen 5 3600 MSI Nvidia 1080 Ti 11GB 500GB SATA boot drive 4 WD Red 10TB Raidz2 Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L Micro-ATX Case Its a temporary solution but I have 4 rubber grommets under each drive for vibration and an air gap for the fan in front of them to allow for some cooling. Boot drive and one of the spinning disks is mounted to the other side of the case, which isnt ideal for cooling. But for now its gotten me up and running. Primary use is for Plex (already working with GPU acceleration). Just need to copy my 3.4TB library over. Immich - will be testing this out as my current google photos collection is under 200GB so I see no reason not to have an onsite backup of it and get my wife to finally backup her photos.

one thing to keep in mind is that installing hexos without a gpu for video out will likely be annoying. sticking a gpu into the machine just for the install would be the easiest solution if you had one lying around or in a system you can take out of.

So one of my main pages I have on my Unraid Server is a default page for my lab setup. In the future this will move to HexOS as the App's list grows. But i could not wait so I create a logo and the temp server I have up on Proxmox is linked now. As soon as my new server comes in I will switch the virtual out to the r730xd. This is the docker app HomePage.

What Dylan said, your biggest limitation with your server will be the CPU, See plexes guide on the recommended CPU. It should be fine for just 2 4k streams but don't quote me on that lmao. If I remember correctly—and I might be wrong—certain GPUs are significantly better at transcoding than others, so I would look into it. Plex Guide to CPUs for their servers

Wifi is fine but your motherboard has 2.5 Gbe Ethernet networking on it. If you plan to host something like a Minecraft server or a plex media streaming server, based on my experience with wifi 6 and ethernet, I will take and highly recommend ethernet (Cat6/ Cat6a) for anything where latency, stability and throughput matter. For the GPU, the 6600 might be nicer if you plan to do hardware compression or streaming I think it's called - I'm not to familiar with the GPU side of Plex. For the Minecraft server, I can speak to, Minecraft servers are very core dependent so having an 8 core over 4 is a good idea but it depends on how many people you are planning on hosting. I would also like to note that you may need more RAM if you want a higher render and simulation distance as those parts of the server get stored in the RAM and can be quite large sometimes.

What zerologic said, currently there is no headless install of Hex OS, I would go with put a GPU from your main rig in temporarily and then remove it after install. Or, buy a cheap GPU for like 30$, something like a rx 570 or 980 or something cheap and leave it in there.

I believe it'll depend a bit on your specific motherboard and what its settings are; but normally, that CPU Fan header will be able to be adjusted fan speed based on the CPU temperature reported. I'd expect that the fans all ramp up as your CPU hits a high utilization and then they'll slow back down as soon as it has either hit a lower steady state or finished its work. As for whether or not it is a bad thing, I don't think you should have any issues. I have once run into a problem with a motherboard burning out a Noctua fan (twice back to back actually) but I believe that was down to the Pump header that I was using pushed too much amperage (presumably) through the fan. I don't think a single splitter should put anything at risk.

There are a decent number of users with 'Admin' within their usernames, This can be used to exploit other users of the forum in to mistaking that the individuals are a staff member. For security purposes, they should have their user/display name changed and use of 'admin' be blacklisted from usernames. This is especially true for "Admin", "Admins", and "superadmin".

If I were in your shoes, I think I'd start by seeing how everything goes over WiFi since it may work perfectly fine. If you see packet drops or an unacceptable latency then you can look elsewhere. I can't say I have any direct experience with them but two out-of-the-box solutions would be ethernet over coax or ethernet over power if WiFi doesn't pass the muster. Both solutions take advantage of what's probably already in your walls, but they both have their drawbacks.

I dig the rig @lostboykev!

That looks sick! Love the livery on the side and the wheels.

If you want to use it as a game server I would always connect via Cable to the network. Your milage may vary depending on how stable your wifi is but personally I wouldn't bother with this potential bottle neck unless it is really not practical to run a cable. If you don't already have the 3700X I would consider a Ryzen with iGPU and ditch the dedicated GPU to save some power. Probably enough for 3 x 4k streams but maybe someone else can give a confirmation. Maybe 4700 G or 3400 G (big step down). Somewhere it was stated as a rule of thumb that zfs likes 1 GB of RAM for 1 TB of storage.

I'm too powerful.

That looks great dude, nice work

to think even mods could get rate limited

I'm pretty sure the limit is 100 over the previous 24 hours. I went HAM on day one I got blocked right at 100 total reactions.

I'd love to see dynamic DNS support as well. It was a pain to set up Caddy due to an incorrect number of brackets 😕

it really depends on what you plan to use the server for. if your current machine adequately meets your needs might as well stick to it if it doesnt then it is time to upgrade. this n100 machine gets recommended a fair bit on this form however if say plex with subtitles are important to you i would get a used desktop or a i5 8500t + motherboard on ebay for around $100

Thank you for the information. Came here to look just for this.

I *think* you're replying to me? If so, that's really good feedback, thank you. You were spot on about remaining mindful of limitations. Some folks have suggested I'll find the N100 lacking and, maybe they're right. But I suspect my low-end uses case will be served just fine. I'd love to hear how your system performs under different loads so feel free to tag me if you post about it. Thanks!

Hey there. Your CPU is likely okay. But if you found yourself with 2 4k streams AND a game server being run at once that may tax it but that's just my guess. I'd add the GPU if you plan on doing any transcoding and with your work load maybe go to 128GB if you can? So, I don't think you need to throw any money at this up front, I'd run with what you have and see if you're getting bottlenecks anywhere. No sense in spending money "just because" - test it out and see if it works for you and if not, maybe the odd upgrade here or there gets you where you want to be. Good luck!

🤣 Sorry, I tend to run off explaining things in detail... I'm no master either, just a Tinkerer who knows just enough to be dangerous. I just know Proxmox handles virtualization and hardware very well, and makes handling them easy with a good GUI, and Hex/TrueNAS is doing the same for NAS/Home server stuff. If you can get them both to play nicely without convoluted Loopback configurations, you've got chocolate and peanut butter. I'm mainly supporting hex because I like the idea of paying for a simple appliance OS where you bring your own hardware, And don't need to worry about the appliance vendor dropping support. Got burned By that when I bought my Thicus NAS years ago. I also know I know just enough to be dangerous, so, letting the responsible adult handle what's important seems best. 😜

Yes, unfortunately I don't have a Master's in NAS/Filesystems and neither does the individual in question I'm guessing so we'll just bow respectfully to you and continue on our way 😉

OK.. so here is the thing. Yes. HT can add to power consumption. but as you state it can reduce the time taken to perform a task. That is if that task can take advantage of the hyperthreading. Not all tasks are suited to HT. So it's 100% dependant on the type of load you are placing on the CPU, what other tasks are ongoing and how the code is written. There is no single rule that fits them all. There are other things going on that can have a significantly bigger fluctuation on power draw. Differing hard disks can have differing initial spin up power requirements. even same brand, same model, different firmware. Same for power supplies. Same manufacturer, same model but different production run can impact power efficiency. I work in IT for a company with over 40,000 servers. Power consumption is something we monitor actively on our non cloud servers. (Who cares about the cloud power costs?). One of my specialities is Database systems (infra DBA not APP DBA). Systems under my management have over 140,000 CPU cores. We have HT enabled on around 75% of the estate. We tried disabling HT to see if it had any power impact. It did. Overall things took longer and the overriding view was MORE power was consumed with HT disabled. I also manage middleware teams. HT had a lesser impact as the apps were less parallelized. here Disabling HT has a VERY SMALL impact to power draw. Not enough for us to spend the time implementing changes to disable further. The areas where we disabled HT and left disabled were relating to security over performance and/or power. Hope that helps.

there's still a usecase for the temporal simulation that F@H provides over the AI design going for the completed product

its a i3 8350k 4c4t@4g, it has 24g of ram. also note its been up and running with many app inside of truenas for most of the year with no issues, This box is for storage and running small network apps.i have a few larger dell poweredge servers if I need horse power.

No docs just yet. Honestly the software is pretty self-explanatory and where its not, that's a bug ;-). Eventually I can see us creating guides for special use-cases / advanced user needs, but realistically we're trying to build this thing where docs are mostly unnecessary once you're in the UI. Lofty goal? Yes. But it's a good one! The exception to that will be app-specific setup guides which I think make sense for us to curate along with the app containers themselves.

Mine sometimes does just because she feels so, thankfully I have a trash can... boa imperator that eats anything that is not eaten. Snake tax as well

Hey it would be cool to have a straight forward way to install Nextcloud (e.g. the all in one edition https://nextcloud.com/blog/how-to-install-the-nextcloud-all-in-one-on-linux/) on HexOS. I set it up myself on my homelab, but the setup was not as easy and while the software itself works great, I'm not as satisfied with my implementation. It offers a lot of features with a client that is available on a lot of devices already, essentially substituting Cloud storage, Google Calender, Contacts, Office products, Slack (e.g. for small businesses) and as I just saw even LLM like ChatGPT. This would add huge additional value to HexOS, since you easily could substitute a lot of subscriptions that way, while having enormous privacy benefits, a thing the target audience of HexOS would surely profit of. Especially if there is also a way to safely expose it to the internet.

I may be an edge case but I've been in IT for 24 years. Just because I CAN get stuff done at the command line does not mean I want to, if it can be made easier, especially when I'm at home and just trying to get movies up for my kids to watch. Dig? I get paid to do this stuff and no one is paying me to do it at home. Further, the thought of paying an Apple or whomever, just doesn't sit right with me. So, DIY home NAS that's simple to set up and manage for $99? Yes, please and I'll take two while were at it.

A downside is that much of the history is hidden from the world/search and so others comming across the same issues later can struggle. There are even services (such as linen.dev from a quick google) that try to bridge that.

Please give us an easy way to create and automatically renew a CA signed https certificate for our systems without needing to exposed a http or https port to the internet.

most of its stupid oem hp stuff, but it was free. i7-8700 24gb ram (1x8gb + 1x16gb) GTX 960 Random 400 some watt Silverstone SFX PSU, w/ the 180w OEM HP one 3x4tb seagate terascale drives from ebay HP oem mobo hp oem case

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I +1 the idea I also have a truenas scale and it is a pain in the ass for amateurs

YES! this 👆, im totaly fine testing everything on a new machine aswell. but, this feature would be lovely later on 🙂

I was able to finish the install, but I can't create storage pools without 2 spare disks.

The installer seems to expect an OS drive plus two drives for data which it will set up as a mirror (RAID1), so while TrueNAS/ZFS may work with a single data disk, HexOS might not let you complete the setup.

You need at least 2 drives to install. However, three is recommended to you can potentially expand your storage in the future. See THIS POST for a list of hardware and storage requirements.