Is it possible to get a more granular roadmap?

[Parachaye]

I don't know if others are feeling this but I'll say my piece, I'm glad to see more app curations coming up now and saw there's a beta program, but it's a bit frustrating that beyond the occasional blog posts I don't really know what's coming up in the near future and to plan accordingly. 

Note, I'm NOT talking about exact timescales or that I want something faster. It's not an issue about whether a particular curated app will come next week or next year. The issue is that there's no specifics on what's being considered and any ballpark about which order they'll come in or how far off they are. So I have absolutely no idea what's worth holding off on for a little while because a curated app of it might come up imminently, or what isn't planned for curation any time soon (or at all) and that it might be worth diving into Truenas UI and setting up myself with the help of some AI. 

As one or two examples, I setup Navidrome myself in Truenas about a month or so ago myself....and then it got added to the curated app list just a week after that. Now I'm going to just leave that as-is and hope it doesn't cause any issues since I don't want to risk migrating anything and losing settings or metadata. On the other hand, there are a few apps I'm looking to setup (e.g. frigate, romm, audiobookshelf, mealie, papra, jdownloarder2) and some can be very complex and time consuming to figure out, so I don't know if I should wait or go ahead on spending hours on these. 

As a few examples of other projects I've seen where they give this kind of granular detail (without timeframes, and while being upfront of what is also not being considered or what is a maybe): 

Obsidian Roadmap - Obsidian

Roadmap | MacroFactor

Roadmap | Immich

Roadmap 2022 — present | Notesnook

Edited 9 hours ago by Parachaye

[Todd Miller]

You have an interesting but somewhat tired point and you are definitely not alone in your feeling.  If I were in a brutally honest mood I would say they don't know what they are doing.  Now let's be clear.  If you look at HexOS, they clearly know what they are doing in coding the product because we have a working NAS.  And we have curated apps that work quite a bit more often than not.  The brutal part comes in what you ask what is the vision.  Are we going to get a focus on mostly more curated apps over the next few years?  Or during that time will they give the recent development work a chance to settle and focus back on the additional revenue discussion?  And if you were here at the time, you saw @jonpget jumped for the statements in different places saying version 1.0 would be out by the end of the quarter.  So from that standpoint, why even say anything between releases when your going to get heat and a daily countdown by someone in the forums anyway?

This is just my opinion so take it or leave as you will.  Like thousands of companies, one or more people had a big idea.  Then they probably got like minds together to evaluate the feasibility of this idea and decided it could work and would fill a gap in the NAS market.  To fund this big idea they went looking for supporters ad found some who agreed it was a good idea.  Here is where things get sketchy because with the money came what should have been supportive advertising like the LTT videos and all the reaction videos to that original video.  It looked like someone lite a match then dumped a 100 gallon can tank on that match the way folks bought into the black friday sales.  Eshtek has been playing catch-up in one form or another ever since.  I doubt things are going to change until they make good on all the initial promises and have time to sit down and breath and do some much needed planning.  And I think Eshtek knows the situation they are in.  So if any of what I have said is true, things will remain like this until the big promises are met in a year or two.  Yeah I know I am doing the same thing I just said Esthek folks are going but really, what other choice is there?

[mill3000]

I'm not on the apps team, but I think that if the app you are installing is popular in the TrueNAS catalog, it will probably have a curated app at some point. It could be days or months from now. We don't publish them because things happen like last week where we were about to publish the app and found out the app itself has a problem with it. If you want an app today that you don't have and you feel capable or want to spend the time on it, then just follow the Nike slogan and JUST DO IT! Learning how to use TrueNAS is a great thing for the crew who is in our forums. The ones who like to be in here are likely the ones who can figure this out and make themselves better for it. If we come out with a curitaed version, well that's just part of playing the game. We want this to help people who need it most. So, things like gaming server apps come after the other apps that are more geared to replace the Googles, Apples, Netflix, and so on that have monthly fees. 

When it comes to the vision of the product, we have so many opportunities that it's just the time to implement it with our small team. We've already said buddy backups are next and it's coming this year. Then VMs, and once that is done we have a list to choose from. Sometimes things change so we don't want to say this is what's next. TrueNAS went back and forward with how they ran the vms over the last few years, which is why we pushed it.