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I'm out of town right now but let me just state that I totally get the folks that are upset. Honestly, writing blogs is pretty stressful for me as we constantly are working on moving targets and I stress over communicating about things that are still in flux and getting the words right. Tbh, I stress over comms in general. It's nerve wrecking. It's why I am earmarking funds this year to bring someone in to handle this for us. I just didn't want to spend any money on non dev/support resources until we got to 1.0. Again, I get it and I am not gonna make any excuses for it, so if you want to be mad, please direct that anger at me, not my team. They are busting their butts to get this thing polished and rolled out.
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I Linus was telling the truth Local UI was part of the original plan to him. I don't think he would have investor a quarter of a million dollars without it. He has listed to many examples of companies going under and the content he purchased goes away for lack of the "local" option.. I have said this so many times I am even getting tired of hearing it but... I have a professionally managed Unraid NAS at a cost but it is worth it to me. I thought this project would be my chance to take back control but I underestimated what that would take. So I now have a $99 NAS that my wife and I can load up and a $99 sandbox to use to look at Jellyfin, Plex, Immich and other apps in TrueNAS. I don't think I will ever use any long term within TrueNAS but I have a pair of long term Linux servers that could do the job. The first video Linus did where he and Jake marveled at how HexOS make the setup of the storage pools and security very easy got my attention. I can do that and set up accounts for myself and my wife that allow us access as needed without risking making unnecessary or possibly hazardous admin level changes. I've done that in Windows and HexOS in my testing and had to do full delete/reloads because of it. I already have everything I need and am fine with the cost. I don't know if I gain anything with the local UI so to me any other time taken is an unnecessary delay. For me (and yes I understand it is probably just me) release 1.0 should have been the core NAS itself. Then build off that for release 2.0 and beyond for all the apps and VM parts. I think the project could be run better from the customer standpoint but if @jonp DM'ed me and questioned why I fuss so much if I don't really care. It's a valid point but this is a slice of the market that needs to be filled and whoever fills it needs to understand this product in not for network/NAS folks who recognize progress. It's for folks who probably couldn't build a NAS themselves. Of for folks who have no interest in learning TrueNAS or they would just use that. Those types of people aren't going to sit quietly and wait for quarterly information dumps because that data means very little. Did Eshtek intend that to be their target audience? Probably not but they should actually be excited that group seems interested. That's group will be the most loyal if you treat them right and are the best beta testers because you can't predict the messes they can get into. I think we need to understand this experience is going to be the norm for HexOS. As I said above, if you want something from HexOS then say it. And since money will always be the main driver, if Eshtek can monetize it they may look at it for the future. However if you think this level of communication is not enough, you saw that from the beginning. The team didn't go radio silent in the last few months. This has been the norm. If your issue is now that they can't estimate a project like this one well ok. They may even agree but before you do that you should find another project with this kind of hype because of an outside force. What kind of attention you think we deserve for $99 might be an interesting discussion. If there is a mathematical formula I have probably used my time up a few times over. I'm pulling back from HexOS and the forums but if you want to continue pointing out the shortcomings like missed deadlines and lack of meaningful communication, be my guest. Just show a little respect and don't act like its something new. Everyone who reads the forums already knows and it must not matter to most folks. And thinking you can guilt the team into more meaningful communication or more timely updates you are just being silly. If you care about HexOS then join the test groups when they have them and try different things that may not be what you will use it for. If you no longer really care then step back and let others play. Don't completely disconnect though because if you miss updates you may be screwed and have to start over. Linus or Jake, if you are in these forums and are reading along, please keep your mouth shut and let HexOS stand on its own two feet!
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I can say ALL of my NAS builds have been done with Used drives from ebay and other retailers. I have had a small batch os issues but were dealing with drives that had a LARGE amount of time on them. if you are expanding and want to keep price down used could be a great alternative for you
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I am a purple and gold guy
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I got this working by doing a manual install of the docker compose file found here: https://docs.coolercontrol.org/installation/docker.html To manually install it, in TrueNAS go to Apps, Discover Apps, then click the three dots in the top right corner and load Yaml. You can leave the compose as is and it will work. You need to follow the guide below to setup the hardware for it. Specifically for TrueNAS that is running this command in shell and following the prompts: sudo sensors-detect To setup everything prior to that follow the guide here: https://docs.coolercontrol.org/hardware-support.html
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The nuance I see is: Guesstimate for initial release, end of 2025. Oh shit, people want a local UI? Guess that's fair but that's a tone of extra work... but here's hoping... (I like many assumed the local UI was a part of the original plan) End of 2025: So it turns out the local UI was a tone of extra work, but we have a better guesstimate, Q1 2026. 1 Week before the end of Q1: Ok beta-beta release, If this goes flawlessly we might just make it... End of Q1: So transitioning X all at once is a massive migration that you can't really test for that well, so we'll have to do it gradually so we can cater for the inevitable fallout. Maybe we can do that over a month? Obviously I'm completely guessing (see, lack of communication) and could be completely wrong, but the general rule I've seen is go off the magnitude of the guesstimate, the longer the period the less accurate it is.
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So just to be clear... The initial deadline (end of 2025) got delayed. The self imposed new deadline (Q1 2026) got delayed. The blog post about the delay got delayed (and still not out). The extent of the communication in the meantime on they delay is a random comment buried in a random forum thread. Radio silence on the official comms (reddit, twitter, newsletter). Hard to see how that could be considered acceptable / consistent / reliable. What's the level of goodwill here to assure that even end of April release will be met? The track record so far now is the opposite - the self imposed deadline means nothing.
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Yeah they work for a display card. I have a 1080 in mine and its fine. Immich seems to be able to use it for some things. 🤷
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Don't get me wrong, the communication is at what i would call a minimum, any less and I'd guess it was abandoned. But, it's a consistent and reliable minimum so far. I check the forum every other day, so would i appreciate more details, definitely. But would i trade anything for that outcome, probably not. So with the minimum communication and knowledge of the software development process patterns, I'm content enough. But that's not an expectation for others I have either. If you'd trade a license for that outcome and the team decide that they should improve communication because of it, hey, that's good too,
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The people saying everything is fine have got to be software developers who see this only from one perspective. Hate to break it to them, most people we'd expect soon to pay full license fee to keep the project going aren't, and those are exactly the potential customers we'd lose with this laid back mindset to weak areas of this project. Those won't be beta expectations anymore and there will be a lot to prove to doubters of this project to justify the price. Imho plex & immich was genuinely exciting to watch grow naturally, and backing them early felt like a bargain especially towards stable launch. Was it perfect? No, there were delays too. But none I recall having such communication meltdowns close to stable release. I'll be honest, some of the responses here concern me as much as the delays and comm issues themselves. Some say I knew it's part of the process "when I read Q1 2026 I think Q3 2026" maybe, but not this far into this beta with no updated written delay comms. Others react confused when I try to hold the team to their own deadlines. 'I'm glad they're not communicating, that means time is much better spent on making the software...' really? Good teams do both and I'm not asking for daily extensive blog posts of what and why went wrong, just a sentence update across all hexos communication channels setting new expectations. I recall people on this very forum calling out poor communication back in July and October, and the team acknowledging it and promising to improve. Yet here we are. Traveling or not, I still don't understand how the whole team forgot the most anticipated day of their own project, or couldn't break the news of a delay at least the night before. Now whether April Fools or not, yesterday would've been the first day after stable launch with customers paying $300 for a license, needless to say the most expensive nas os on the market. At this point, if the team still offers a refund option, I'd happily take it.. this just isn't for me anymore
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Can I still use the 680 or 1080 as just a display card until I get a compatible card? cheers for the replies. I’ll get an intel NIC and just go SATA drives. ill also look into jellyfin as well. cheers guys
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Parachaye started following HexOS Local - Early Access User Sign Up
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The teams working as hard as they possibly could on this and when participating in a beta delays, bugs and broken updates are to be expected. Personally I would prefer delays over broken updates.
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Well @vogam7did you get what you wanted? If you have read these forums there are more than enough accusations of terrible or completely lacking communication. I have been jousting with this windmill since shortly after the initial deployment. I've even talked about to many methods of communication that left each incomplete. I got a similar response it would be looked into. and I can say this was the only answer you could have expected. They are probably still a small team primarily of coders. There had been talk months ago of no marketing team, no support team, and only initial talks of ongoing funding. If we are thinking this communication level is the biggest issue we are going to face before this project stabilizes, we are seriously kidding ourselves. That LTT video is more of a curse than blessing because this project isn't ready for that kind of attention. This team isn't going to acknowledge they are having trouble. They just won't say anything, again. And there is nothing any of the paying beta customers can do about it. Watch and wait or don't watch, what's the difference now. It's to late to change the approach the team took, even if they have found that. And there is now reason to assume that's true. Did they take the right path to this development? Did they build the right team with the right leadership? Well, if you have a better plan then share it. If you don't like this approach how would you fix it? Communication alone means very little. Missing deadlines is a much bigger deal that not mentioning there are problems. And honestly, do you think this would be simple and smooth? Yeah right.
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Mil reached out and we got the issue resolved. Turns out I'm an idiot and entered an incredibly old mailadres during purchase. One I did not consider checking for a confirmation.
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Will 1.0 launch this month as expected?
Parachaye replied to Anthem's topic in Roadmap & Feature Requests
Not a great look to be honest. And I say this as someone whose already paid and I'm using (even daily driving) Hexos. It's meeting my current needs for Jellyfin and rhe Arrs but only because I needed to go into the truenas interface and use AI help to get out setup. I need frigate and cameras in the next couple of weeks, want to setup VMs, want to host freshRSS etc. Currently not doing it because I want to see what 1.0 brings and was just a matter of a few days away...except now its a month away again. I get wanting to let em cook, but at some point just release already! The market is already quite different from when hexos was first announced. What was the point of emphasising in the last two (not one but two) blog posts that they're pushing back from end of 2025 to Q1 of 2026 if it's going to be delayed again. Literally from the last blog post: "And finally, mark your calendars: HexOS 1.0 is coming in Q1 2026." Except don't mark your calendars because actually we'll just delay again? Again, I say this as a customer whose already paid (so it's not like I'm hoping for them to fail but likewise I do expect to receive the product as advertised and for when advertised when I already paid for it). 1.0 has really got to come out asap and actually have a sizeable scope, many more one-click apps and working out of the box, otherwise truenas on it's own or other solutions are better value. -
According to this picture found at https://nascompares.com/2024/10/04/jonsbo-n5-review/ , it seems like he has added the 4 SATA cables and 1 SATA Power cable to the board, no MOLEX. My best bet is that you can either use MOLEX or SATA Power, but don't need both.
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You aren't able to add Gluetun to a HexOS app, or a regular TrueNAS app. You have to either install the Dockge app in TrueNAS and then install the Arr apps through Dockge. Or you have to install them as a custom app in TrueNAS. I do hope HexOS will get a good way of routing app networking through a VPN, but I expect it won't happen soon. @Isaac7ski
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"Working on a blog post with an update. We had to push back to April due to some issues with our health system that we've been tracking down since February. The plan is to both begin the rollout of HexOS Local and complete the health system upgrades and then release 1.0 by end of April. I was hoping to get a blog up today with all of this information, but it just didn't come together fast enough." -JonP "I am traveling today but I will be working on getting this blog post up tomorrow (April 2nd). I'm also planning to hire someone to take over marketing/comms this year as a full time position." -Jonp Link to discussion
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Will 1.0 launch this month as expected?
Anthem replied to Anthem's topic in Roadmap & Feature Requests
They just posted in another thread. Saying it will be delayed until end or April. Blog post coming tomorrow (April 2nd) -
Grimaldius started following UPS notifications
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I have the same issue with my APC UPS. From some previous investigation on that topic, I found that the issue might be caused by the Network UPS Tool driver, and a new version might fix the issue. The NUT version in TrueNas is linked to the Debian version, and Debian Trixie upgrades the driver to 2.8.1-5 Should be available in Truenas Halfmoon (26.04)
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This one is entirely on me. I am traveling today but I will be working on getting this blog post up tomorrow (April 2nd). I'm also planning to hire someone to take over marketing/comms this year as a full time position.
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Oh, that's unfortunate... Thanks for the info, will try
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well 4 are connected but is there a way to fix it
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Hey, yes unfortunately this seems to be normal for BX APC UPS. Those UPS are not the best ones and the driver does not work very well with them. The problem seems to be that the USB part of the UPS keeps disconnecting and reconnecting every couple of seconds leading to this messages. It's a known problem. My advice would be, if you can still return it, do so and try looking for an Eaton UPS or similar. https://forums.truenas.com/t/back-ups-bx1600m-false-battery-replacement-alerts/50688
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Hello there I just hooked up my APC bx750 via USB to my NAS. I was pleasantly surprised to get email notifications from hexos (see attachment), however I am unsure if it is reading the values correctly: - why is it telling me i need a battery replacement, it is brand new - why is it taking me battery is low while also reporting 100% charge Any inputs are welcome 😊