Mobius Posted March 11 Posted March 11 yeah i for the most part decided not to bother learning truenas its what i bought hexos for after all 😂 3 1
Szym2c2 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Currently my pool is gone in hexos and it seems to dissapear whenever i do something i truenas. Will stuff like that be fixed with the new update? 1
Mobius Posted March 15 Posted March 15 7 hours ago, Szym2c2 said: Currently my pool is gone in hexos and it seems to dissapear whenever i do something i truenas. Will stuff like that be fixed with the new update? That's weird I haven't come across anything like that. Does it happen with everything in truenas?
Szym2c2 Posted March 18 Posted March 18 On 3/15/2025 at 8:17 AM, Mobius said: That's weird I haven't come across anything like that. Does it happen with everything in truenas? It happens with each new install, after i change stuff with the pool in truenas. It seems to not be one specific thing, but multiple. I'm currently learning truenas, so i have a few extra pools for different testing.
flat4vw Posted March 26 Posted March 26 On 3/11/2025 at 1:49 PM, Mobius said: yeah i for the most part decided not to bother learning truenas its what i bought hexos for after all 😂 Same reason my license is not being used, it does basic NAS things but if i want more i need to get into TN and I want point and click. 2
hamby Posted April 10 Posted April 10 On 3/7/2025 at 2:24 PM, jonp said: New blog post up today providing a status update on HexOS! https://hexos.com/blog/hexos-q1-status-update I am on TrueNas Core and not Scale at the moment with my ixSystem TrueNas Mini. Seeing the road map for Scale migration...I assume this means I need to get on Scale before I can do that migration or will there still be a way for me to migrate Core?
Mawson Posted April 10 Posted April 10 3 hours ago, hamby said: I am on TrueNas Core and not Scale at the moment with my ixSystem TrueNas Mini. Seeing the road map for Scale migration...I assume this means I need to get on Scale before I can do that migration or will there still be a way for me to migrate Core? Not sure about migrating from Core to Scale, but my hunch is you will need to start with a fresh config. And if that is the case you may as well use the HexOS installer image, since it is a full Scale install, with the HexOS web connector added. This means you could use the install with HexOS, or just like any other Scale install.
PsychoWards Posted April 10 Posted April 10 Best way forward is probably going to be a fresh install using the Hexos ISO (once pool import is supported) and importing your Core Config and following this guide: https://www.truenas.com/docs/scale/24.10/gettingstarted/migrate/migratingfromcore/ 1
hamby Posted April 12 Posted April 12 My biggest worry is my Plex library and everything I've done already. I don't want to lose anything or metadata 1
hamby Posted April 16 Posted April 16 On 4/10/2025 at 5:07 PM, PsychoWards said: Best way forward is probably going to be a fresh install using the Hexos ISO (once pool import is supported) and importing your Core Config and following this guide: https://www.truenas.com/docs/scale/24.10/gettingstarted/migrate/migratingfromcore/ Once pool import is ready for HexOS I might need some help. I only get into the system when I need to...which is not often and I feel like I have to re-teach myself again. This is the reason I am a supporter of hex for sure. I know just enough to be dangerous to myself with nas
DayEll Posted April 17 Posted April 17 isn't the idea of a BETA is to get regular updates to test out? so far there's nothing after months. isn't a great look to be honnest 3 1
PsychoWards Posted April 17 Posted April 17 1 hour ago, DayEll said: isn't the idea of a BETA is to get regular updates to test out? so far there's nothing after months. isn't a great look to be honnest The Blog post explains that the team had to expand and increase the infrastructure to cope with the success and that this delayed the roadmap, but that an update is coming this Q2.
Kurma Posted May 7 Posted May 7 I understand that it takes time, but no update for two months is quite long. I am not even looking for a software update. I am just genuinely interested at whats going on... 4
DayEll Posted May 7 Posted May 7 12 hours ago, Kurma said: I understand that it takes time, but no update for two months is quite long. I am not even looking for a software update. I am just genuinely interested at whats going on... yeah its beyond the joke now, some beta this is!! 1
Kpod Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Zero progress visible to the end user over 6 months is not a good look. 3
FangerZero Posted May 8 Posted May 8 lol they updated one of my suggestions on app and I appreciate it greatly. Sticky App card window thing.
vogam7 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 21 hours ago, Kurma said: I understand that it takes time, but no update for two months is quite long. I am not even looking for a software update. I am just genuinely interested at whats going on... 'Coming in Q2’ probably means no news until late June. Jokes aside, my biggest gripe is that Hex OS, which was supposed to save us time by eliminating the need to deal with config headaches and dig through TrueNAS manuals, actually <at least for now> introduces more moving parts and points of failure in the TrueNAS and Hex symbiosis. I get that many issues appear to be caused by people updating to unauthorized versions of TrueNAS, but there are also a number caused by unintended Plex or Immich app updates and/or unusual app configurations, forcing the need to find advanced workarounds that the product’s intended novice NAS users likely wouldn’t have to deal with on latest vanilla TrueNAS OS. I appreciate the challenge the dev team is tackling, but maybe this should’ve stayed in closed beta a bit longer 1
markrieder Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Apparently achieving symbiosis between TN and Hex is much more challenging than expected. In my opinion, it would be easier to create a TN-independent OS that would use OpenZfs, so that development and feature modulation would not be limited to an already tightly coupled system.
Aspen910 Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Very frustrating experience for everyone so far. Most of us are here because of Linus S. Hopefully what he said recently on the WAN show is true, that some very very experienced programmers have come on-board to the HEXos team as a passion project. If true, we should be seeing some great progress made here and get everything and more that we are looking for, eventually.
Sonic Posted May 9 Posted May 9 To be honest, I am pretty possitive about the current state of the HexOs beta. And yes, I also like to see more updates from the HexOs team. It's a journey and I think it's much better as a beta user to be part of that journey. If you hear nothing, you will set your own expectations on timelines and features. Disappointment if often the result of the lack of communication. But back to the beta. I have two HexOs systems. For one system I follow the recommendations pretty strickt, only one pool, no updates via Truenas, only use Immich and Plex, ... This system is running pretty solid for months now. My other system is my HexOs test system and it breaks once and a while. Mostly because I tried all kind of things in Truenas. But if I try the update functionality in TrueNas and it breaks HexOs, then it is an expected faillure. I expect a HexOs update based on TrueNas 25.04 in Q2. TrueNas 25.04 is released in April. So I think is reasonable to expect that the HexOs team needs some time to build and test HexOs on top of this stable version. See quote HexOs Q1 status update: Rescheduling VM Support Similar to what happened with Docker, iXsystems is in the process of migrating TrueNAS SCALE to a new VM and Linux Container management environment in their next major release, 25.04. Incus promises to provide a few key feature improvements, including a better web-based VNC agent. As such, focusing on VM management features in the short term didn’t make sense given that the ground would be moving beneath our feet. Furthermore, in temperature checking our current community, it appears that increasing application support and buddy backups are of a higher desire. It is for these reasons we have lower the priority of VM features. Keep in mind, you can still create VMs within TrueNAS itself, and we will give you start/stop controls from our Command Deck dashboard for them. 2
nugglet Posted May 9 Posted May 9 9 hours ago, Sonic said: To be honest, I am pretty possitive about the current state of the HexOs beta. And yes, I also like to see more updates from the HexOs team. It's a journey and I think it's much better as a beta user to be part of that journey. If you hear nothing, you will set your own expectations on timelines and features. Disappointment if often the result of the lack of communication. But back to the beta. I have two HexOs systems. For one system I follow the recommendations pretty strickt, only one pool, no updates via Truenas, only use Immich and Plex, ... This system is running pretty solid for months now. My other system is my HexOs test system and it breaks once and a while. Mostly because I tried all kind of things in Truenas. But if I try the update functionality in TrueNas and it breaks HexOs, then it is an expected faillure. I expect a HexOs update based on TrueNas 25.04 in Q2. TrueNas 25.04 is released in April. So I think is reasonable to expect that the HexOs team needs some time to build and test HexOs on top of this stable version. See quote HexOs Q1 status update: Rescheduling VM Support Similar to what happened with Docker, iXsystems is in the process of migrating TrueNAS SCALE to a new VM and Linux Container management environment in their next major release, 25.04. Incus promises to provide a few key feature improvements, including a better web-based VNC agent. As such, focusing on VM management features in the short term didn’t make sense given that the ground would be moving beneath our feet. Furthermore, in temperature checking our current community, it appears that increasing application support and buddy backups are of a higher desire. It is for these reasons we have lower the priority of VM features. Keep in mind, you can still create VMs within TrueNAS itself, and we will give you start/stop controls from our Command Deck dashboard for them. I think it's easy to dog pile when there have been 0 updates for as long as it's been, but yea... I think the new updates to TrueNAS make whatever is going to be included in the next iteration of HexOS more exciting. Although, I wouldn't expect many of these features to be made available to us through HexOS for a while, it would still be nice to push an update in beta stage that allows testing of how it will interact with Fangtooth and give us the option to explore some of these feature updates in the meantime... I am considering migrating to TrueNAS completely at this point and reserving HexOS for my family if/when they get out of beta. Would be nice to at least have a progress report, or some other form of update that communicates the expectations the HexOS team wants to set for the end user. IMO current state expectations are not tempered because they're not established 4
DayEll Posted May 9 Posted May 9 this cant. beta, simple as that if it was we'd be testing things every week-2weeks this is basically an update every 6 months. this update better be a good one, tons of apps ready to go, buddy backup, virtual machines you know the basics oh and local UI not this pathetic slow web UI.
FangerZero Posted May 10 Posted May 10 Here are some of my gripes/concerns so far with the state of HexOS. Paid beta has been around since Let's say December, we're working on the 6th month? It just seems a bit long. I get don't rush it be ready to release 1.0 as solid as they can. But for those of us who have been using hexOS I think it's pretty lack Luster which is ABSOLUTELY ideal. It means it is doing the job it was meant to do. And with Synology being shady I imagine HexOS might see an influx of members from that group. So stability is the upmost importance. As we wait for 1.0 we have had plenty of time to want to do more with our HexOS, but since we're still in beta I see it as we could lose our data when we update to 1.0 and I don't want that to happen. I decided to try out a password manager and mealie, I've put quite a few recipes in, and I don't want to lose my password manager even if it some parts of it are not setup because documentation on it is bad. It still works well for the most part. That brings me to a question, When HexOS does get official support with these apps, how will it behave? Will it just take what you have and say "looks good" if there are settings and such that were missed or could be optimized will it help fix them? Or how will it handle any failed app setups? I don't even know how this works on trueNas even now. I'm still all in w/ hexOS since TrueNas to me was a nightmare and I like the few things I have running on HexOS and I can't wait for 1.0, when I will feel safe about my data not being wiped. 3
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