Email Server

[GameTec_live]

My Friend is tech savy enough to have a domain and website but has nothing to do with servers. I recommended HexOS to him and his first impressions are good, but as he has a domain he always wanted to use it for emails too.

Having a App thats a 1 click mailserver would be amazing, considering how annoying they are to set up otherwise. Would also pair great with the already existing roundcube webmail thing.

[jmztaylor]

1 hour ago, GameTec_live said:

My Friend is tech savy enough to have a domain and website but has nothing to do with servers. I recommended HexOS to him and his first impressions are good, but as he has a domain he always wanted to use it for emails too.

Having a App thats a 1 click mailserver would be amazing, considering how annoying they are to set up otherwise. Would also pair great with the already existing roundcube webmail thing.

The biggest issue is that most residential ISPs block mail ports. 

[Exos]

2 hours ago, jmztaylor said:

The biggest issue is that most residential ISPs block mail ports. 

Indeed, would be great to have a workaround solution out of the box ^^

[whoome]

Just putting this out here, what about the option of setting up a small VPS to handle the port issue which then connects to the mail server on the local HEXOS server using Tailscale HeadScale or NetBird?

[BlueAsphalt]

many domain sellers have the feature of email forwarding to the emails made with the domain bought

[Bassfiend]

On 12/1/2024 at 9:31 PM, jmztaylor said:

The biggest issue is that most residential ISPs block mail ports. 

TBH I would have thought that the biggest issue would have been that generally any self-hosted email servers tend to get ignored by the rest of the world and emails sent from them filtered/rejected as spam?

I've often fancied hosting my own mailserver but have generally found this to be a problem.

[PsychoWards]

9 hours ago, Bassfiend said:

TBH I would have thought that the biggest issue would have been that generally any self-hosted email servers tend to get ignored by the rest of the world and emails sent from them filtered/rejected as spam?

I've often fancied hosting my own mailserver but have generally found this to be a problem.

This and if you server is not reachable (maintenance, updates, ISP problem, ISP forced disconnecteds and reconnects, power outage, a wrong manipulation on the server, house keeper unplugging the server to plug in the vacuum cleaner etc...), you are not going to get any mails and this becomes problematic with missed invoices and other important mails.

 

Therefore while it certainly is a fun and interesting topic, I would only use it for emails which you don't mind not receiving, but I would not use it for important things, but that's up for everybody to decide themselves.

[Bassfiend]

On 12/1/2024 at 9:31 PM, jmztaylor said:

The biggest issue is that most residential ISPs block mail ports. 

This certainly *USED* to be the case back in the early days of ADSL but nowadays - certainly from my experience in the UK - all the ISPs that I've used in teh last ten years or so don't block ports 

[HomeHosted]

On 12/1/2024 at 2:28 PM, GameTec_live said:

My Friend is tech savy enough to have a domain and website but has nothing to do with servers. I recommended HexOS to him and his first impressions are good, but as he has a domain he always wanted to use it for emails too.

Having an App thats a 1 click mailserver would be amazing, considering how annoying they are to set up otherwise. Would also pair great with the already existing roundcube webmail thing.

Containing an email server is not fun.  I have done it self host, vps, and the amount of bullcrap you have to deal with when it comes to spam filters, your domain being blocked because a company notices your home op was used for malware before years ago. Etc.

i like the idea but I would ask for this when they have matured the software more.

[Mobius]

ive also heard that self hosted email servers even have to potential to hurt you. Imagine you apply to a new job and when they email you back, the email bounces. You just lost that opportunity

[jmztaylor]

On 12/25/2024 at 1:12 AM, Bassfiend said:

TBH I would have thought that the biggest issue would have been that generally any self-hosted email servers tend to get ignored by the rest of the world and emails sent from them filtered/rejected as spam?

I've often fancied hosting my own mailserver but have generally found this to be a problem.

 

Yeah but blocked port is full stop.  Between it being listed as a residential IP and dynamic IPs, it makes self hosting email server at home quite problematic.

[dperrigo]

While I agree that supporting email is tedious and that HexOS is built to be as simple as possible, I mainly just don't like that currently HexOS is sending pool data from the system out to their servers. Ignoring that currently the only way to access the system is through their domain.
I would at least like a way to disable the email alerts and a simple redirect to the Truenas GUI would be fine to setup custom email.

 

On 12/25/2024 at 1:12 AM, Bassfiend said:

I've often fancied hosting my own mailserver but have generally found this to be a problem.

Also for this I'm using a amazon VPS  / you can also host it in linode/akamai with https://mailinabox.email/