HexOS Updates?

[ETrain]

how will HexOS receive updates will we need to reinstall until its out of beta or will it start prompting us to update it via the cloud dashboard?

[jonp]

2 hours ago, Jedi1025 said:

odds are they just update the webui (since it's hosted on their end anyway), we click a shiny new button, bits download and get placed, switches thrown, reboot, and bob's you're uncle.  my guess, anyways

Mostly right.  So the UI/UX will update at a much faster pace during beta as we catch up to the underlying capabilities of TrueNAS SCALE.  So a single TNS release such as 24.10 can actually carry us quite a ways before we need an underlying OS update.  We're already starting to align though.  We specifically choose 24.10 so we could focus on Docker and RAIDz expansion as early features.  We're already eyeballing specific features in Fangtooth (25.04) for proper inclusion in HexOS.  

Furthermore, we really don't want users updating HexOS through the TrueNAS SCALE UI.  We are going to be more reserved about pushing updates for new releases and wait primarily for TrueNAS .1 releases after their main releases for future updates.  That is the one of the reasons HexOS is still in beta right now.  24.10 is stable, but 24.10.1 is the bugfix/hotfix release that comes after and that cadence is followed for all TrueNAS development cycles.  We believe this is a better path for customers.  Security updates will follow with proper cadence because again, the build's are being produced by iXsystems.  This is all a function of our "Powered by TrueNAS" partnership.

THAT said, we will have "beta" tracks potentially after 1.0 for HexOS where users will be on a .0 release (possibly even beta or RC), so you can test a new feature.  Hefty warnings will be provided for anyone treading this path, so unless you have test gear, we won't encourage this.  But for those that want to see the future a little early and help us test it out, you'll be on the inside track ;-).

 

[jonp]

SCALE updates are designed to persist all HexOS customizations, regardless of how they are applied (SCALE UI update or through our HexOS UI in the future). We still would prefer customers to stay in lockstep with our update method to ensure the best support. 

[LuciferMstar]

2 hours ago, ETrain said:

how will HexOS receive updates will we need to reinstall until its out of beta or will it start prompting us to update it via the cloud dashboard?

I can't wait to see the answer for this one...I'm curious to know more about it too

[Jedi1025]

odds are they just update the webui (since it's hosted on their end anyway), we click a shiny new button, bits download and get placed, switches thrown, reboot, and bob's you're uncle.  my guess, anyways

Edited December 9, 2024 by Jedi1025

[LuciferMstar]

1 hour ago, Jedi1025 said:

odds are they just update the webui (since it's hosted on their end anyway), we click a shiny new button, bits download and get placed, switches thrown, reboot, and bob's you're uncle.  my guess, anyways

Sounds like a pretty good guess to me...lol

[sdavisnz]

On 12/9/2024 at 7:16 PM, jonp said:

Mostly right.  So the UI/UX will update at a much faster pace during beta as we catch up to the underlying capabilities of TrueNAS SCALE.  So a single TNS release such as 24.10 can actually carry us quite a ways before we need an underlying OS update.  We're already starting to align though.  We specifically choose 24.10 so we could focus on Docker and RAIDz expansion as early features.  We're already eyeballing specific features in Fangtooth (25.04) for proper inclusion in HexOS.  

Furthermore, we really don't want users updating HexOS through the TrueNAS SCALE UI.  We are going to be more reserved about pushing updates for new releases and wait primarily for TrueNAS .1 releases after their main releases for future updates.  That is the one of the reasons HexOS is still in beta right now.  24.10 is stable, but 24.10.1 is the bugfix/hotfix release that comes after and that cadence is followed for all TrueNAS development cycles.  We believe this is a better path for customers.  Security updates will follow with proper cadence because again, the build's are being produced by iXsystems.  This is all a function of our "Powered by TrueNAS" partnership.

THAT said, we will have "beta" tracks potentially after 1.0 for HexOS where users will be on a .0 release (possibly even beta or RC), so you can test a new feature.  Hefty warnings will be provided for anyone treading this path, so unless you have test gear, we won't encourage this.  But for those that want to see the future a little early and help us test it out, you'll be on the inside track ;-).

 

so will updating truenas scale break hex os - like can we do it and it might be fine, or dont do it. 

[Zerves]

On 12/9/2024 at 7:16 AM, jonp said:

Mostly right.  So the UI/UX will update at a much faster pace during beta as we catch up to the underlying capabilities of TrueNAS SCALE.  So a single TNS release such as 24.10 can actually carry us quite a ways before we need an underlying OS update.  We're already starting to align though.  We specifically choose 24.10 so we could focus on Docker and RAIDz expansion as early features.  We're already eyeballing specific features in Fangtooth (25.04) for proper inclusion in HexOS.  

Furthermore, we really don't want users updating HexOS through the TrueNAS SCALE UI.  We are going to be more reserved about pushing updates for new releases and wait primarily for TrueNAS .1 releases after their main releases for future updates.  That is the one of the reasons HexOS is still in beta right now.  24.10 is stable, but 24.10.1 is the bugfix/hotfix release that comes after and that cadence is followed for all TrueNAS development cycles.  We believe this is a better path for customers.  Security updates will follow with proper cadence because again, the build's are being produced by iXsystems.  This is all a function of our "Powered by TrueNAS" partnership.

THAT said, we will have "beta" tracks potentially after 1.0 for HexOS where users will be on a .0 release (possibly even beta or RC), so you can test a new feature.  Hefty warnings will be provided for anyone treading this path, so unless you have test gear, we won't encourage this.  But for those that want to see the future a little early and help us test it out, you'll be on the inside track ;-).

 

Will we get update changes as newsletter over email?