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NAS no longer accessible.. but I can't remove it.
Mindless999 replied to HorizonerTi's topic in Hardware
I know there was an option to delete it, but I forgot where it was. If you select the old (unavailable) one, do you see a button there that will say: remove from my list? -
Aah, I see what's happening. in my editor it's actually 3 lines, and not explaining that the 4 drives are in one raid. It mainly mentions that they are Mirrors for the SSD and nvme. Let me adjust it a bit more so the formatting is a bit more on what I expected.
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Adjusted, thanks. can you explain what's the difference that makes one a Mirror, and the other a RAID Z1?
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And it got published with the review. https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/b/dHBj4D I would like to know what you all think about it as well, so love to hear everyone's opinion about it!
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Not fully correct. Yes SMB protocol is used by Windows, but it is a protocol that's working on Windows, Linux, MacOS (and possibly others). NFS is a different protocol, which was mainly used on Linux as a sharing system, I don't know the exact details on why what is "better", or the history, but it simply put is: a different piece of software and protocol. For compatibility SMB is used, since it's generally more adopted and almost every system is using it (Think about games. Most games work on Windows, not all of them work on Linux or MacOS, but some of them also only work on Linux or MacOS and not on Windows) Plex can be currently installed through the HexOS platform, *other* software cannot, and you need to use the TrueNAS system. You repeated Plex here, so I think you wanted to mention a different piece of software? The interpretation is partly correct. You can install it on the system, however you need to use the TrueNAS interface for this. HexOS will be able to start & stop the software from the interface. So technically you can install it on HexOS, just not "through HexOS". All this said, if you want to use a bit more advanced configuration, you will currently need to use TrueNAS for the settings, but if you just want one system with everything, you can just do this.
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So, in the end I have the Dell HBA330, and have written a small guide what I did on PCPartpicker, but that's currently waiting moderation. Once it's published I will post the link here, also for people to see if they also want to build it. Thanks again everyone who has helped here!
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As mentioned, I separate everything as much as possible. Plex for me isn't even running on hex OS, but on a completely different system. Using folders that you create in HexOS, you by default have SMB folders, but will require some linux know-how on how to connect them during startup etc. In the end it will be: what will work for you? and if it doesn't work: you can always change. That said, keep in mind that what works for me, doesn't work for everyone. if you want to download directly into the folders do that, if you want to download on a different disk, and them move them do that.
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I run Plex myself on a separated VM, and use SMB, which is mounted automatically during boot, and using those directories for plex. It's fast enough for discovery, and also for a few devices as long as you don't over-do it. That said, I would recommend just have a single machine for a certain purpose if you can (separation of concern) Let me know if this is what you meant and will suit your means.
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So, update on what's happened so far. I got everything except the HBA card, and finished building this. When The HBA card arrived, I installed it and...... no disks.... so I was a bit annoyed / surprised. After fiddling a bit around, I found out that this card only works well if you have it running in a mode with the motherboard which allows *also* legacy settings. For some reason, no matter what I did, or how I tried to firmware update it, it did not wanted to be recognised. It looked to have worked on a different system, but in the end I can't get it to work with the current system. So. Now I have ordered a new card, and will be looking forward to when this arrives. I ordered the Dell PERC HBA330 PCIe 12G HBA (0J7TNV) as a replacement, which should arrive tomorrow. To test if the disks were working, I still had an old Areca RAID card lying around, and it looks that the disks are being seen by the devices (although it also looks like the RAID controller doesn't support these sizes 🤣). So, for now: I need to wait until the package is delivered and I hopefully have a happy NAS at that moment. Once everything is finished, I will post my final build & screenshots, as well as a full (sort of) step by step on why I choose things, and how I have build it. I will update once I have an update on this!
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So I did it, I ordered the hardware. List here: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/RRGyrM I will try and make a bit of photo's on how things are going. to be updated soon™
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It makes sense, will think about it. Also I want to have a raid of max 4 disks, and if I need to expand, just do a second (HDD) RAID with new disks which I can then expand the system by swapping the disks in the future. So if I would have 4x 8TB, will swap the 8 TB disks with 20 TB in the future (example), that way I don't need to swap *all* disks at once, but can just do a few at the same time, while keeping my hardware (and software) the same.
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It looks like they don't sell directly, and I probably will go with the EXOS disks in the end since they are a lot cheaper. In Europe it looks like they are only selling through 3rd party resellers. (at least in my country) Although the disks are a lot lower, based on how they handle import taxes, and also the transport costs, it will be cheaper to get "new ones". Great tip for anyone who doesn't need to worry about this though! So simply put: if you run Linux, try to only use Intel cards? Thanks for all the tips there, Since I won't go for any Plex etc, and I have currently a preference of AMD over Intel (and AM5 is currently easily upgradable for the future) I will stick with AM5 for now. I saw you put the 24 TB disks there, and 3x a 128GB SSD. Why would you go for a 3x 128GB ssd for the OS, wouldn't 2 be enough even for a RAID 1 setup? Also the 24TB are (currently) a bit more expensive per GB, any big reason you went for those, other than: they are bigger? Thanks everyone for there 2Cents 🙂 I haven't decided yet when I will get it, but it's now getting more and more into shape. I might build it in a few months, and will definitely update once I received it how everything's going also with changes, and will share once finished.
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EXOS is definitely a lot cheaper, and makes a lot of sense, thanks for that tip! I looked into the differences, and what I read, but I am not 100% certain, is that the EXOS is bought in higher bulk, thus is cheaper, as well as that there are a few firmware features that are added to the Ironwolf (Pro) that can make them more expensive. But this is all assuming and not fully certain. I am running Plex as a separated VM, and might add a video card for that machine to help with it, so no Plex / Jellyfin will not run on HexOS. For the network card, thanks, I didn't know that that one was not compatible. I thought that all of the newer generations kind of were supported. Does this have to do, that it's not an intel chip for the network cards? For those who want to follow the updated list is now this: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/YkMCkf
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Mindless999 started following Possible new DIY build to use with HexOS
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Hi all, First of all thanks for all the developers with all the time and effort in this product. I can really see the vision, and hope you will be able to have full 1.0 available soon. While we're waiting for this, I currently am already looking (and maybe already go install it) on a DIY system, which I want to get to replace my Synology (I really hate the direction they are going into now). With this in mind, I am wanting to build a full DIY system since my Synology is also almost nearing it's end of life and possibly I would need to replace it anyway in the next few months / years. This is a work in progress list on what I am going for: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/86bFyW Explanation on what I have with this build: 2 SSD disks, which will be used for HexOS installation. I prefer HexOS to also have a redundant disk. 2 NVMe disks, for supper fast-storage / VM's I might run 3 HDD disks for general storage, I don't need speed for that, but want to make sure it's durable. What I want to keep from the list: 3 HDD's for 20 TB (or more) since I think it's currently the sweet spot for storage per GB. These disks I require to be "NAS" based disks. 2 NVMe disks. I think the 2 TB is the sweet-spot, so I am selecting these. I don't need the fastest, since it won't run much etc, but prefer to have it like this The case I really like. If there is something similar to this case which you'd recommend, please let me know, but I kind of already want to have this case. Everything else is up to debate. I don't want a *to* power hungry system, but I want to run at least a few VM's. it would be like 1 or 2 VM's i'm running, only for backup if my main server would suddenly die, and I need to recover files. The amount of memory is a bit based on the amount of storage that's used + a little overhead for the VM's. If you'd recommend less, tell me why, if I should need to do more, please explain 🙂 . I am leaning more towards AMD since I think their performance is slightly better than Intel right now, but I am not saying I won't go for Intel. Also, I prefer to go with new so I know that I'm the first user, and not that someone already used almost everything, as well as have the warranty with it. What is the thoughts of other people? Did I pick good? did I do overkill, did I pick something that's not good enough? What would you recommend etc. Thanks in advance!
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Thanks for this article, it has been an eye opener for the ECC memory, Especially reading a follow up which is on that thread: https://jrs-s.net/2015/02/03/will-zfs-and-non-ecc-ram-kill-your-data/. So what I understand here is: ECC will *help* keep your data safe, and ZFS is already keeping your data safer then any other filesystem, by default. If you had an error in RAM due to broken RAM it would have broken any data on a disk, no matter what FS you're using. In summary: Using non ECC RAM is not bad Using ECC RAM is better, but it's better overall, it's not ZFS that makes it a requirement. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks again for the explanation/pointers to the correct information.