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I liked the blog post thank you for making it.

would you be interested in writing a guide with me for the docs site? 😄 If you could do a rough enough guide for me to follow I will polish it and do screenshots? 💪

Hold up here. Is an administrator or moderator going to actually make a statement or can I jump into any discussion and say a post has run it course? That seems bold for a two person conversation that I doubt most people have seen. . I'm still chuckling at the we are listening comment though the more I read the forums the less funny it is.

Would be great if we could allocate cores in the hexos deck. I just realized that apps only get 2 cores by default

Could we get a forum section for install scripts? That way as a community we can post a thread for a specific app and people can share their scripts and ask for feedback? I think that'd be handy, but I don't think it needs to go in the normal Applications support forum because that might confuse people as it's definitely a more advanced thing at the moment! Thanks

That was a interesting read. The app issues seem tricky and a little length. The power supply monitoring was great. This would be a great feature to be integrated. For quick setup, I use HealthChecks.io and it'll ping me on Telegram when something stops sending its pings. But for now, HealthChecks.io is free and easy (it will require going back into the TrueNAS UI for the cron job, though).

This would be a pretty neat feature, especially for big ingresses, where I usually need to copy to NVMe pools → work / edit / build → export back to HDDs. Unraid does something similar with its cache pools & "mover", so there is precedent for something like this to be added to HexOS.

Seems like I already explained this kindly enough. Here's my last shot. To most, no terrible product is made good by having quality and clear documentation, change logs, tutorials, release cycles, roadmaps, etc. Most casual users never even look at any of that stuff. They expect things will be obvious and just work. If they don't, they give up. What is obvious to all users, not just the most basic ones: it is painfully annoying to use any terrible product, where the developers are not given time and space to do their best work. Especially in beta, when there are big and frequent changes that periodically make whole swaths of docs, tutorials, release cycles, roadmaps, etc. obsolete and useless, working on stuff like that is an annoying waste of effort. The quality of an OS is not purely in its code, but it is mostly in its code. While one can have both quality communication and a quality product, if I had to allocate development resources of a project in beta, I would allocate them to product, not communication. Especially because bad communication can be much worse than no communication. The impetus for my comments was the fact the other people brought up marketing, and I also get why they stopped replying.

First a little about me. I run a media company that has multiple in-house editors with a very expensive 350tb dropbox bill. I am technical enough to have an idea of what is and isn't possible, but not practiced enough to know what the heck everything is called. We are a small business so don't really have the resources to hire an IT team to manage it. Which is why Hex OS seems like a good option for us. We can DIY some stuff together and upgrade as the business grows (Which I presume is what True NAS will allow us to do once our use case get's more complex) So, as for my question. I would hope for a solution that involves everything being in one folder and then as an individual file goes unused for about 2 weeks the file is no longer stored on the ssd, but is moved to a slower hard drive for "cold storage". To the editor, I want them to not even know the file has moved, I want it to just appear exactly where it always is for them. Current plan is to build out a head unit that has all of the ssd's and compute in it and connect it up to a jbod or two to expand as needed

Updating Immich is still broken. Please buy hearing aids. 😛 Sarcasm aside, can I assume there's no intention for the HexOS team to address this? It's been months asking for info/help regarding the storage configuration deprecation, the least you could do is let us know here and in HexOS that we're on our own on this.

Fyi, Q3 update went live today along with a new docs site: docs.hexos.com We are listening to you guys!

Agreed. For me, UPS support is important, especially as the TrueNAS UPS service is good enough for today. Graceful shutdowns are the ideal. IMO, UPSes help for more than just utility blackouts / brownouts: circuit breaker trips (e.g., vacuum on the wrong outlet at the wrong time) someone unplugs the wrong plug (e.g., they thought it was another device, but turned out to be the NAS) ZFS does really well with power loss due to CoW, but reducing the # unexpected power loss events is good, especially with spinning rust, non-PLP-backed SSDs, the myriad of hardware combinations not uncommon in DIY consumer NASes, avoiding the temporary loss of in-flight TXG writes (~5 seconds).

Seems like everyone here already explained this kindly enough. Here's my last shot. To most, there is no "great product" without quality & clear documentation, change logs, tutorials, release cycles, roadmaps, etc. What is obvious to folks that actually self-host or store critical data, except the most basic users: it is painfully annoying to use any allegedly "great product" where the developers "are too busy working on the OS" write their changelogs with known issues, compile the hundreds of details + limitations in their product with solid documentation, somehow believe every user "ought to just know" how to fix critical OS errors, or thinks "our product speaks for itself". Nobody here should be so enthusiastic to forget HexOS predominantly works on TrueNAS API, but I am continually surprised in this thread. The quality of an OS is not purely in its code. TrueNAS, Ubiquiti, Unraid, etc. must all do their detailed docs, changelogs just for fun, lol: "Nobody needs that. See, the code we wrote, this product, it's beyond mere words. Oh, bugs or limitations? You tell me". Quality communication and a quality product are not an either / or proposition for a NAS OS. In the end, most users will continue to have very different expectations for HexOS. Cheers, friend. 😀 Now, if you also believe marketing was the impetus of this thread & these comments, welp, now I get why others stopped replying. I think this thread has run its course.

Ah, I see. In that case, start/stop/uninstall have been there all along and have at least looked the same (I don't think I ever used them) for both the two "HexOS curated" apps and any installed via TrueNAS. Updates have so far not been supported, not even notifications of there being any. If that doesn't change in Q3 I will be flabbergasted. Just a few more hours and we'll see.

Yeah, not sure why that other guy brought up marketing... I agree, I have no idea why that other guy brought up marketing. That's great. At release. How much do you value the quality of the product, though? Would you sacrifice product quality for any/all of those things? Before you even release?

Its 1:44am where I'm at, can't sleep and also pretty excited for the Q3 update!

I was thinking whether it was capable of managing updates, start/stop, etc. fromn HexOS if installed via TrueNas, or whether any interaction with it would have to be via TrueNas is installed via it. Will wait for the patch and see. Just a bit rubbish that it appears to not be handling the via it itself is installing.

I would wait for tomorrow’s update, it should be the next one click app

Sorry to bring this chat back from the dead, but has Jellyfin been fully added to HexOS yet?

So the rest of us could move past the marketing. That tracks. I value at zero how many views an influencer/investor got versus the documentation, change logs, tutorials, release cycles, roadmaps, etc. Thanks for clearing that up. 😀 Anyone who's used a new platform, and especially a new "OS" like HexOS, knows that communication with users is paramount for an "amazing" product. No need to believe me, just ask Eshtek founder's old gig and their Unraid Docs and Unraid Release notes. ^^ that is what we ought to advocate for the 1.0 launch, not more influencer/investors making marketing videos. Clear, thorough, consistent communication with users goes a long way to building a strong reputation, especially beyond release and especially with paid software. Even documentation-light, heavy-on-the-simplification Ubiquiti knows it has to be upfront: limitations, bugs, workarounds, etc. are commonplace on any NAS, e.g., Ubiquiti Drive Features & Configuration — Ubiquiti Help Center. // Anyways, excited to see what Q3 brings tomorrow on Monday. Really curious how much they've improved since Q2, especially how feature-complete HexOS is before the 1.0 update. Are we now mostly an RC with just bug fixes, cutting features for 1.0 to meet the deadline, or crunch time to get it all done and hope for the best? Let's hope for great news.

That really is no explanation of what you meant. Anyway, it is precisely the point. Many, including me, wouldn't be here without the influencer getting their view and endorsing HexOS ("world-class marketing"). It is true the existing early access beta testers (or "users" as you are calling them) will not benefit much from more marketing. They will, however, benefit if the product continually improves and becomes "amazing", right? Good thing that Eshtek poured the unexpected influx of capital into a "frantic growth" of development capacities and not PR, marketing and community managers, right? By the way, I did not originally bring up marketing, but yes, marketing is for people who are not using the product, so definitely not us. I only made it clear, that Eshtek has marketing covered. Very true, and the lion's share of this reputation, especially at release and beyond, will be based on the quality of the product.

It misses the point, IMO: users on the HexOS forums in the beta stage are clearly very interested in HexOS. The # of views an influencer has is meaningless.. External marketing is less relevant to users on these forums: we're already here. Eshtek's communication choices with users is what drives forum posts like these. Eshtek, like all software companies, will have its early success based on its reputation among its users. Another “world-class” influencer marketing campaign will mostly hit non-users.

I am finally pushing my MS 2019 server down the river, and setting up a Framework Desktop with MS 2025 for group policy, domain controller, and DNS. My 2019 was also my NAS, but I never got more than one 10 TB WD RED NAS drive in it. This time I am going with a MINISFORUM N5 AI NAS two of the 10 TB WD RED NAS (and probably my old drive for parody) to start with. I plan to add more drives as needed, and my N5 wont be here until later in October. Main issues right now decommissioning the 2019 server is....I can't install all the drivers on the Framework Desktop w/ 2025 (pro AMD drivers don't support the hard ware, normal drivers don't support the OS). Ah the joys of poking a new server OS. Once this is sorted, I will be taking all but the NAS roles from the 2019. Once the N5 gets here, the 2019 losses its NAS roll and I start my HexOS journey. Oh and main reason I built a 2019 server for my home and 4 users? Group policy to force windows to behave like your domain account is local admin, like you don't bounce from the performance to balanced power profile randomly, to kill one drive, and more recently to send CoPilot to sleep with the fishes.

The Mod team has also reached out for you and hopefully we can get this resolved quickly for you

What did you mean by that? What's "curious" about any of those words given their context?