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I wonder if the only real measurable boost they can get is when Linus and company do their live on air install. There aren't enough of us with a platform that if we say it's good or need more work, to move the needle. Most true technologists on Youtube seem to be reviewing this product as if they owe someone a favor. When they do the HexOS vs TrueNAS vs Unraid (or others) they all say HexOS is good for the new to a NAS folks or those just starting out. Does that mean they wouldn't use it and don't expect us to after a few months working with TrueNAS directly? And the single product reviews mostly say let's wait and see. I know already that I am their target audience because I will use the core NAS and apps they make available. And if things go as we have been told the template process is supposed to make new app easier for someone to create. Not sure if that's the team or the app developers but it probably won't be me. As I have said in other places on the forum I have a network expert who created an Unraid setup that does everything I "NEED' and probably much more. HexOS is my inexpensive toy in the corner that I can pick up and mess with for a little while then set aside again when I hit a roadblock like my Raspberry and Orange Pi unites or my mini pc. For now it has my attention but we will see when we finally go live.

The screenshot below is what we see when updating the system from the command dashboard. It simply shows a basic window with very little info, if any. It would be nice to see a progress bar indicating how much of the update has been downloaded and when it will actually reboot. It would also be great if we could get an autorefresh on the page after 2 minutes or whatever.

Security is huge with these apps. What I have started using is a Cloudflared tunnel with a custom domain and cloudflare security steps to access my applications from the outside. This eliminates the exposed port issue and, with proper setup using the truenas certificate thats built-in, using HTTPS traffic from outside to cloudflare and then from the cloudflare into the tunnel and application itself. This, as far as I can tell, is secure enough for no-one except myself to access any of the applications without proper verification through cloudflare and the usual UI login.

How do you know that there is a patch coming? I couldn’t find anything about it. And are there release notes for it?

The LTT video with 1,6 million views was huge, Linus himself invested in the company. HexOS went from a niche little thing to frantic growth because of the huge influx of customers. They are fine, when it comes to interest. They don't need to worry. Now it is important for them to focus on delivery more than on anything else, because to have a great product isn't just good, it's existential for them. If they fail that, no amount of "communication" and "advocacy" is going to help.

The point was that if someone does not know a product exists, they can't buy it. The specific examples weren't really relevant, but if you feel games (software) and HexOS (software) are as different as it gets, we just disagree and that's fine. I was addressing the claim that the quality of the product is what makes or breaks it, not whether HexOS has a marketing budget or not. You can have a great product, but no one will talk about it if there's no interest in it. That was the point that was originally made. That the lack of communication isn't helping interest, so fewer people talk about it, less word of mouth. Having a great product is good, but it's far from all that matters. There were a few videos and some interest a year or so ago, since then it hasn't popped up much for me, so anecdotally there appears to be some truth to it. I know it's true for myself, I went from being an advocate to not mentioning it, because I cannot in good conscience recommend it to anyone. The reasons are more than just lack of communication, but it's a not insignificant factor.

Excellent news, looking forward to hearing about it.

Those are very weird examples. HexOS isn't a movie or video game. It's about as different from those as it gets. And, even so, HexOS has a world class marketing campaign behind it already. In reality, marketing matters very little to a niche, but excellent (or terrible) product that is supposed to be used daily for years and years. Word of mouth among enthusiasts matters much more. And that will come naturally, if the product is amazing.

Yeah, we seem to finally have hit the "it's actually deprecated now" stage. It's possible, but not likely given how they've ignored the issue for months, that the HexOS team will offer a solution. If not, it's up to us to try to follow the instructions in TrueNAS and attempt to migrate, or uninstall and reinstall. Via HexOS if next week's update supports it, or in TrueNAS if not.

In an ideal world, that would be true. In reality, people can't buy what they don't know about, no matter how good it is. Which is why movies have marketing budgets rivalling the actual movie budget sometimes. Game developers beg for wishlisting because it increases Steam store visibility, etc. Interest equals word of mouth, which can matter a lot. Or, a company can throw money at marketing and word of mouth is a lot less relevant.

Not really. I mean a bit, but it doesn't matter too much. What truly matters, and makes or breaks a project, is the quality of the product.

I actually just encountered a failure trying to update my existing Immich install and feel it may be related. I've been running for over 6 months now and typically update it every few days without issue until today. I am attempting to update from v1.143.0_1.9.30 to v1.143.1_1.10.2

Hell yeah!

I have managed to log into TrueNas, using the username truenas_admin, and the password I created during install. I followed steps I found on another Immich thread here, but it did not fix my problem. Steps were: "Go into True NAS interface from Settings in Hex. Go to 'Apps' menu, click 'Configuration' drop down button, click 'Choose Pool', select your storage pool then click 'Choose' - the app service will then start, go back to HexOS and install Immich again and all will work." I choose the HDD pool, but install via HexOS fails for the same reason still.

First installation of HexOS, so it is a fresh install. Installed Plex without issues, and it setup the Performance directories/locations on the SSD pool, and the Capacity directory/location on the HDD pool, along with all the Media directories/locations on the HDD pool. Install Immich > results in "Failed to install app "immich"" - Failed to install app: App Instal Job Failed: [EINVAL] values.storage.use_old_storage_config: Field was not expected. I have tried a few times in between server restarts, and copying data over from my current NAS to the HexOS Nas I have never used TrueNas, and hesitant to go into it. So not sure where/how to access more detailed logs if people ask for them; but willing to learn. Appreciate any help you can provide. Running on HP z4g4, with 32GB RAM. Have an NVMe with HexOS installed, have a second single 512GB NVMe as the SSD pool (495.26GB usable), and four x 8TB HDDs as the HDD pool, of 23.12TB usable If I was to log into TrueNas, I did see that it wanted a username and password; is this the username/email that I use for HexOS? as when I set up the password through the installation, it did not ask for a username to go with it.

Hey all. Q3 update coming Monday. Bunch of other goodies and content with it.

If the lack of communication kills interest in the project though.

I agree with you in principle and if you look at my comments you will see that I have been critical of a lot of things so far. Being a rookie, I was trying to install some other apps but the descriptions off youtube all say when adding the dataset for an app use the preset "app". I don't have that preset. Is that an error? And if so, does it have anything to do with HexOS or is it a TrueNAS issue? Immich works perfectly for me but I an at least six updates behind and I an getting the 'The storage configuration you are using is deprecated and will be removed in a future version.' message. Is that the fault of HexOS or TrueNAS? I want to get into creating virtual spaces and installing apps into them but that is not available. Again, who is at fault? There seems to be two big reasons many folks are complaining about Hexos right now. First is very limited communication and yes I retyped that several times scaling back the aggression. I was a mainframe developer, scrum master and project manager for 40 years. I've only seen this level of communication once. That was from a software vendor that the teams lost faith in pretty quickly and stopped paying attention when they said big news coming or that changes are on the way. The second is the community is treating the HexOS app like its finished and production ready. Why are we even worrying about what's in the Q3 and Q4 updates? Yes for me the message banner across the top of the screen is dated 07/28 but when I click on it there is no message saying HexOS IS LIVE.. Aren't we in what is being called beta testing? If you are reading all the posts you can see we are being told about but not promised updates coming soon/next quarter. Do people think that because we don't have a production date that there is something wrong or that something is being hidden from us? Is that even possible while we're in a beta test? And probably most important, Linus mentioned several times he was promised that a local UI would be available before the application goes live. I seriously doubt the dev team wants Linus to have to do a video about he just repeated what he was told so I think we can say there is still work to do and work being done. The solution would be the dev team giving a focused update and we STOP and listen. Yup, it's really that simple. No we won't all be happy but what was that old song? I beg your pardon, I never promised you a rose garden. Yup, I'm that old so I will stop now.

https://www.gingerling.co.uk/swapping-my-to-more-power-efficient-hardware-my-hexos-nas-how-did-it-go/ Hi Gang!! I've been a bit quiet over the summer as I went backpacking with my little kids in Europe. We had an amazing time but I was totally exhausted after. The above is my latest blog. the tldr is I nearly halved my running costs with a change to hardware that wasn't expensive. Honestly the kit is about the same price as what I had already paid for to begin with. Next I will finally get to running this update and be back soon with that story 🙂 Hope you're all having fun!! Anna x

Evening, or morning for some. Here is my rantings about Permissions. If asked you what an app in the app user or group would be able to do with the following permissions, what would you say? USER : READ WRITE EXECUTE GROUP : READ WRITE EXECUTE OTHER : READ WRITE EXECUTE You'd think that yeah the apps should be able to read, write, execute etc. (Before you ask, yes the user/group were both set to App), but for some god unknown reason no. it didn't want to. Then eventually after a random stripe it did work and then I realized, "hey I can't access my shows file I set up to review the work of Sonarr?" No I the user, aka the Other in this scenario, CANNOT access my files. Alright I'll just go to ACL and add, "User : ME" Me being Me the user I set up for my Truenas, "Great i can now access my shows... hey why did my TV stop playing Plex videos?" Now my Plex and Sonarr don't see and can't read my shows, Why does adding ME as a 4th user in an ACL cause it to bug out? Alright let's double check maybe my User is set to like some weird settings... Nothing noticeable let's set everyone to be Read write execute again, and for good luck, i'll add an EVERYONE full control of EVERYTHING. For some added context though, this is what I dealt with today for the last hour or so when yesterday I was tearing my hair out with the same issues with just setting up Sonarr. So here's my proposition, a simple feature for simple people. a basic toggle button for what apps see and have permission to each dataset folder.

I don’t think this device is compatible. It has an unsupported cpu.

Those would be bad examples considering at least one of them has not worked for months. They're also the only ones that they ever claimed to support, as far as I am aware. I've found how they deal with issues incredibly unprofessional, but there's still hope they'll improve. I believe the next update is intended to generalize app support as opposed to dealing with each individually. I'm guessing they're trying to add an abstraction layer on top of at least the most common configuration options to simplify things compared to using TrueNAS, which would be very nice and in line with the kind of simplification that is what HexOS is supposed to be all about. I don't expect they'll do anything to offer a migration path for those with existing Immich installations, but I would be very happy to be proven wrong.

Would be happy to read more updates. The last blog post is from May. An update every 4-8 weeks would help maintain belief in this project. Actually, it looks dead.

Anyone try getting HexOS on a Ubiquiti NAS yet? Do we know if its compatible.

Yes, I believe it is the local UI. In some interview or statement earlier this year , Eshtek noted the local UI will spawn its own Docker container. It won’t be built into the OS’ core and IIRC, it will be a minimal UI for simple tasks that won’t replicate the online-required Command Deck. AFAIK, no public updates yet—just to expect it in 1.0 and that’s all. Eshtek seems to be one of those “work in silence” projects so hopefully that focus means a polished good product at the end.